Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Solution to the whole Nothing Is As Good As The Damnation-problem:
1. Make all CS give bonuses to all links.
2. Set the ships apart by changing other characteristics:
Amarr: slow armor bricks
Gallente: fast armor [something less sturdy but faster than a brick]
Caldari: slow shield bricks
Minnie: Fast shield [you get the idea]

Make each race have two options for weapon systems and let Minnie/Gallente have one each without local rep bonuses (shield/armor HP instead, for instance)

Also, my point in mentioning a 20v20 BS fight was that at even such a small level, the local rep boni are useless.

But alas, i fear it's too late for this, since CCP seem to have made up their minds too much.

Can people please stop quoting Dvla in full? Seriously, it has been quoted in full 10 times on each page, now it's just wasting peoples time. It's a pain in the ass scrolling through it on my phone. If you like the post that much, with a long post like that can you just put "Dvla's right" and link the post or just quote an excerpts or something and just like the post? As it is you just keep adding walls of the exact same text to every page. My phone and likely other peoples don't like that. Especially because most people are just saying "agreed". A like on his post also implies you agreed.

:O

so one of the best looking ship becomes a lame bark
and
the golden chicken will be that something?:(

Im really looking forward to the Black (nighthawk) drake and the blue (myrmidon) Eos. I personaly liked Amarr T2 more when it was gold with red highlights, not red with gold highlights so whatever on the harbinger. and we already have a camo fleet cain so meh on the slep

So let me get this straight here. The two shield tanking missile command ships go as follows:

Claymore:
Minmatar Battlecruiser skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile rate of fire (was MPT RoF)
7.5% bonus to shield boosting amount
Command Ships skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile rate of fire (was link bonus)
5% bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile explosion velocity (was MPT tracking)
Fixed Bonus:
Can fit up to three Warfare Link modules, 15% bonus to strength of Siege Warfare and Skirmish Warfare links
Slot layout: 7 H (-1), 6 M, 4 L, 2 turrets (-3), 5 Launchers (+2)
Fittings: 1100 PWG (-290), 525 CPU (+10)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 4700(+376) / 3800(-44) / 3400(+37)
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 75 / 60 / 40 / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 90 / 67.5 / 25 / 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 2625 / 583s / 4.5
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 170 / 0.7(-0.004) / 12500000 / 12.13s (-0.07)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(+10) / 75(+35)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km (+20) / 220 / 7(+1)
Sensor strength: 22 Ladar (+6)
Signature radius: 240
Cargo capacity: 575 (+100)

Nighthawk:
Caldari Battlecruiser skill bonuses:
4% bonus to all Shield Resistances
10%(+5) bonus to heavy and heavy assault missile kinetic damage
Command Ships skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Heavy Assault and Heavy missile launcher rate of fire
5% bonus to Heavy Assault Missile and Heavy Missile explosion radius (was explosion velocity)
Fixed Bonus:
Can fit up to three Warfare Link modules, 15% bonus to strength of Siege Warfare and Information Warfare links
Slot layout: 7 H, 5 M, 5 L , 2 turrets (+1), 5 Launchers (-1)
Fittings: 825 PWG (+115), 550 CPU (-5)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 5500(+695) / 3200(-163) / 3700(-144)
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 80(+10) / 70(+7.5) / 50
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 86.25(+6.88) / 62.5(+9.38) / 10
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 2812(-187.5) / 625s(-41.7) / 4.5
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 140 / 0.65(+0.02) / 14810000(+800000) / 13.35s (+1.15)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 80km (+20) / 195 / 9(+1)
Sensor strength: 24 Gravimetric (+5)
Signature radius: 285
Cargo capacity: 700

I have bolded things that don't make any sense.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE NIGHTHAWK'S FIFTH LOWSLOT?

Why did you give the Nighthawk such an awful damage bonus? I mean you have ~6 effective launchers if you're not using kinetic damage! SIX! THAT IS HORRENDOUS! I cannot believe people are thinking that this ship is going to be better for anything. Yeah, it'll be better at failing to kill things than before that's for sure! It'll be better at being the missile command ship nobody chooses because the Claymore seems to outclass it in terms of it's offensive bonuses and slot layout (SERIOUSLY, WHY DOES THE NIGHTHAWK NEED THIS SLOT LAYOUT? CALDARI HAVE LOADS AND LOADS OF MID SLOTS. Minmatar tend to be the ones with this sort of configuration, for the sake of 'flexibility'. They can pull it off due to their stats, the Nighthawk CAN'T!

I thought the T1 battleship rebalancing changes were embarrassing- these have blown what you did to the Raven (and how you kept the Typhoon mostly better than it in most contexts) completely out of the water. I fear for what you plan on doing with Marauders, the Golem especially. Let me guess. You're going to change it's role bonus to +100% kinetic torpedo and cruise missile damage, and ignore all other damage types as you have for the Nighthawk and Cerberus. Then you're going to make it slower and heavier and vomit all over it's ability to fit anything. Because it's "too good at PvE" despite not having a role outside of mission running.

So they have a nice new change to the command ships. They took the old requirement to fly them away and added more leadership to them. I have all cruisers 5 and BC 5 and I'm still 50 days from flying any one of them.

QFT

also. I hope the survivability issues will be addressed after they become apparent through use and popularity.

*crosses fingers* first pass first pass

I'll agree with the entire slep thing. Honestly I think they need to change the brutor tribe skin theme. The camo makes it look too much like a navy ship, and I'd rather see a neat looking color scheme that the other T2 ships get. Something like a bright hunters orange would look awesome, it would be like an announcement to everyone that "here comes buttsex!"

The white camo theme of the thukkur can stay, because the white has a unique and neato look.

I thought the onyx was a dinosaur with a briefcase?

This defiantly needs attention before anything else.