EVE General Discussion

Dear OP ho about NO

Thank you the Space dolls feature has been turned off with all my accounts from day ONE and I will keep it that way.

NEX store button is also collecting dust for a lot of players and only transaction in it from my side are going to be from that free to have Aurum they gave out not going to spend a single isk on buying plex and converting it let alone real money. It more of matter of principle for me and it seems a majority of the player base has the same opinion.

I am happy with the direction it is taking now and a lot of people as well.


Prospect of my own bar or shop for tatoos or clothing with a DS9 style of promenade would be cool but it is like the 99th priority for me.

• In your options turn on "load station environment"
• dock in the station of your choosing
• Walk in the station

What more do you want?

It is certainly more than 12 people that care about WiS
The question is more about why are people so passionate about WiS.

For -

• We were promised this 4 years ago
• Makes Eve more personal
• It is something completly new not the same old same old
• It expands the game into a whole new areas whos potential is huge and makes it more of a sci fi sim

Against

• It doesn't fix the old problems
• It adds nothing (I would add immeadatly) to game play and is just dress up (for now)
• FiS has been abbandoned because of this so it must go

Funny thing is WiS people would support fixing old problems and FiS upgrades we just don't want WiS abandoned while the against people insist that WiS must be scrapped

WiS was a direct and obvious beta testing program for WoD.

Where is your WiS? See above.



no

we were promised AMBULATION 4 years ago. WiS =/= Ambulation

12 * 3 (cause theyre gonna alt this up good) * 2 (cause you know theyre gonna run two accounts - most ppl do I hear) = 72 ppl. Its still 12 ppl base tho.

I'm not a Barbie fetishist - I'm an EXPANSION fetishist. I want EVE to expand beyond the basic gameplay we've had for 8 years and into the rich science fiction simulator it has the potential to be (whether that's WiS or DUST or whatever).

Too bad DUST is going to be console-only.

no can do finite resources

Keep in mind that a majority of subscription-based game companies have been posting losses this year as the industry moves towards the free-to-play model, not just CCP (Blizzard/WOW has lost 1.7 million subscriptions in the last 9 months alone). The fact that CCP asked a stupidly high price for their NeX store stuff and that WiS had no gameplay were just nails in the coffin.

I don't think WiS itself is to blame, but rather CCP's amateur and rushed implementation of Incarna and thier use of EVE assets to develop vampires on our dime, that screwed over both WiS and FiS players alike (WiS got a tenth of what was promised and FiS was ignored for 18 months).

It was clear that WiS wasn't the product of 5 years of development... but maybe 6 months (with the other 4.5 years spent on vampires).

On Blizzards loss of subscribers it's actually not because of the fact that it isn't F2P, but more of the fact that they too have dropped the ball with their content with Cataclysm and some would say before that with Wrath. You may also want to look at how many F2P games are closing down or have taken a player and profit hit recently. This F2P wave of the future bs is just that ... bs.

If you make a good product people will be willing to pay for it, end of story. This 'F2P is the future' is a fallacy created by the accountants and marketing people who have little interest in the future of games, only the future of profits.

Yes I agree WiS or the beginning of it with Incarna was rushed out the door with what appears to be litlle thought. So much for those supposed industry experts huh. Simply one bad decision after another got us to this point.

It's sad that 20% of CCP employees had to suffer before CCP management realised they were steering the whole company towards a cliff and blind to the reality of what was happening around them.

I might consider coming back if it were free to play... maybe.... my account is about to expire. Frankly, I signed up for this long ago because I imagined doing awesome FiS stuff coupled with being able to dock and sit down with friends in station and do 'whatever!'

CCP led me on a string, but thankfully they squandered my money

I feel insulted and I could never come back after that announcement. They ****** up and sorry.

Good luck

D&D was a very gated game even when it was subscription based, so the devs inadvertantly made it suitable for the model it has now. With LOTRO I've actually stopped playing because in Turbines pursuit of money they have as far as I'm concerned made it P2W now, which by the way they said initially that they never would.

DC Universe is far to early to see what will happen, but unless they changed the game significantly then I'm guessing those players will be bored within a month or two and that 1000% will decrease as far as players online rather than just players registered. Big difference.

Wasn't it Minecraft or Farmville that just recently lost half a million players.

We are yet to see what happens to F2P games over extended periods of time and probably won't really know for another 4-5 years from now.

I still maintain that if you have a game that is fun and engaging then people will have no problem paying a subscription for it. I've tried quite a few of the F2P games over the last couple of years and the deliberately painfull gameplay the developers put in them so that you want to buy things from the cash shop is just downright annoying.

I would much rather devs work at keeping me interested month to month, rather than trying to work out ways to nickel and dime me.


Back on topic, CCP definately knee capped WiS with the NEX Store. That does absolutely zero to entice new players to EVE and only removes things that players could of been involved in which would have broadened the games appeal. Whoever came up with it didn't have any idea about EVE, the sandbox, the lore or anything else that would benefit the game itself.