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Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-10 22:28:28 UTC
So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.

A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff.
At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.

30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.

how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?

Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.

those game mechanics ruin the game.


im uninstalling right now.


good bye eve.
Dave Kaplinski
1nside Bet
#2 - 2011-11-10 22:30:06 UTC
before you do....

i can haz ur stuffz?
Inzax
#3 - 2011-11-10 22:30:40 UTC
Working as intended...cya.
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#4 - 2011-11-10 22:30:48 UTC
Can eye haz eur stoof???

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Maedeline Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-11-10 22:30:57 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Can_flipping

Essentially this. No, it really doesn't make much sense to me either.
Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-10 22:31:44 UTC
Inzax wrote:
Working as intended...cya.


so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-11-10 22:33:02 UTC
Whatayoke wrote:
So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.

A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff.
At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.

30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.

how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?

Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.

those game mechanics ruin the game.


im uninstalling right now.


good bye eve.

So long and thanks for the story on the way.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#8 - 2011-11-10 22:34:04 UTC
he stole from you.

you shot him.

by shooting him you give him the opportunity to defend himself.

he killed you good.

Working at intended. Remember if you shoot someone, you give them the right to shoot you back.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2011-11-10 22:36:09 UTC
You aggressed the character not the ship when you shot at him. You can shoot the robbers during a bank robbery but they can also shoot you back there or a another bystander. Why the cops dont like local heros sometimes. Can get themselves shot or another person hurt.

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Whatayoke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-10 22:36:46 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
he stole from you.

me vs thief 0:1
Obsidian Hawk wrote:

you shot him.


me vs thief 1:1
Obsidian Hawk wrote:

by shooting him you give him the opportunity to defend himself.

he killed you good.



me vs thief 1:2



see what I mean?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#11 - 2011-11-10 22:37:36 UTC
Whatayoke wrote:

30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.



BS all right.

Although I'd like to have one. Strategic battleship. *sigh*

Mr Epeen Cool
bornaa
GRiD.
#12 - 2011-11-10 22:38:00 UTC
Whatayoke wrote:
Inzax wrote:
Working as intended...cya.


so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic?



Logic of EVE is that everybody have right to defend themselfs when attacked.
You have right to protect your stuff (thats why you could shoot him without concord intervention) but when you shoot somebody, who ever it was, he can defend itself (attack you back for 15mins)
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#13 - 2011-11-10 22:38:10 UTC
well next time dont shoot the thief. everything goes both ways in eve. if someone is stealing from you go back and get a bigger ship or a better pvp ship.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#14 - 2011-11-10 22:38:52 UTC
Also, shooting someone is not typically an appropriate response to petty theft. What?

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#15 - 2011-11-10 22:39:18 UTC
I am more wondering about this:

To benefit the EVE community at large, a small change has been made to game mechanics in regarding criminal flags and how they are inherited in high security space. If a pilot is remote repairing, or otherwise assisting, another pilot who commits a criminal act then the repair module will now disengage. In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.

Since a war isn't a criminal act but a Concord sanctioned action between 2 entities in EVE the remote repping with an alt in that case is handled how?
Also if it does flag them now, does that mean they also get an agression timer? If not then no use really because you can remote rep and dock up right away as it was already.

A tad more explenation about the new mechanics would be handy. I am sure I can find a way then to avoid certain concequences.
Inzax
#16 - 2011-11-10 22:41:10 UTC
Whatayoke wrote:
Inzax wrote:
Working as intended...cya.


so explain my the intention. by what means this is any logic?


Explained by others so no need to repeat. I do have a suggestion. Stay. Nobody cares what you do. I would suggest learning from the experience, seak vengence, set a trap, move on, whatever.... Just enjoy the game. Hell, utilize the tactic yourself and ruin somebody elses day.

K Suri
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-10 22:44:32 UTC
Whatayoke wrote:
So Im flying a faction fitted maelstrom, doing some L4s.

A frigate comes by, starts stealing loot and salvaging my stuff.
At first I just ignore him, when he touched several BS loots I started shooting him, since he was a pirate for me, tagged as an outlaw.

30 secs later he warps in with his t3 bs, starts shooting me. no concord comes.

how in the hell he is allowed to shoot me?

Imagine you interrupt a bankrobbery by knocking out the criminal, suddenly you become a criminal too by doing the right thing.

those game mechanics ruin the game.


im uninstalling right now.


good bye eve.

You fly faction fit (suggesting a reasonable time in Eve) and you lose because you agress a flipper?

People like you give even carebears a bad name. In fact you make Goons look smart in comparison.

**** me.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#18 - 2011-11-10 22:45:30 UTC
I tried finding the lossmail on the killboards but OP is not posting with that character :(

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2011-11-10 22:46:37 UTC
shoot the wrecks next time

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Leeroy McJenkins
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-10 22:47:05 UTC
Posting in beach thread.

I Don't play EVE
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