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C - 1 WH advice on extra ships
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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#1 - 2013-08-01 05:33:23 UTC
As far as C1 Class I know BC is the choice but would a BS be practical in a C1 or is it overkill.

I know I will need a few haulers and harvesting ships, bpc's scanning equipment.

But my question is what came in handy to you?
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#2 - 2013-08-01 05:40:12 UTC
you may want to bring booster ships as in shield or armor depending on what your tanking type ships.

And bring lots and lots of bpc's cause in WH ganks happen chap.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-08-01 06:04:02 UTC
C1s are mostly frigs with some cruisers, BSs do not hit them well.
You'd also need to build the BSs there since they dont fit through the WHs.

You can run C1 sites in assault frigs and need like 150 tank tops on a BC to do them so it really shouldnt be an issue...

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#4 - 2013-08-01 07:09:13 UTC
Well you cant get battleships in a c1. But you wouldnt want to anyway. BCs are fine. Maybe bring a couple cheap cruisers as PvP Ships.
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#5 - 2013-08-01 07:57:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Seleia O'Sinnor
Icarus Able wrote:
Well you cant get battleships in a c1. But you wouldnt want to anyway. BCs are fine. Maybe bring a couple cheap cruisers as PvP Ships.


Haul/mine minerals, build them inside.

C1s are ****** for sleeper farming.

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Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-08-01 11:31:28 UTC
strategic cruisers!! :D
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#7 - 2013-08-01 14:27:01 UTC
Hathrul wrote:
strategic cruisers!! :D

Their fixing to hit it with a serious nerf bat, OK no BS.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-01 14:56:53 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:
Hathrul wrote:
strategic cruisers!! :D

Their fixing to hit it with a serious nerf bat, OK no BS.



Yeah lad, once CCP nerfs the T3 to God only knows what level of uselessness, they'll have effectively nerfed all of w-space into "whats the point".....so have fun with your C1.


Go with the BC....while you still can and nix the BS idea.....too much overhead.

Don't ban me, bro!
notha atfast
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#9 - 2013-08-01 16:24:12 UTC
BC's are the most effective and Risk/Reward (50-70 mil with fit)ships. I hate to say it but Drakes can tank them all day and the damage is ok. I have tried many different BC's and cruisers...a good T2 maller isn't bad either. RR myrm with drones works pretty well, but then you have to drop lights then sentries...that's a lot of clicking. T3's crush them, but why risk a 500 mil ship for C1 sites?

As for as BS's the only time you would Need one would be if someone was moving in on your turf. They Drop a POS with mods and you wanna bash it and need a little tank. If just need DPS the Tier 3 BC's work just as well for less cost and can be moved out of the WH. Hope that helps.
TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#10 - 2013-08-01 16:58:55 UTC  |  Edited by: TXG SYNC
I lived in a C2 Cataclysmic for a while. It's not that tough to solo sites in a good battlecruiser (regen Drake) or duo them in tech 1 cruisers (though tougher to solo in a Cataclysmic than most). A shield-tanked regen Arbitrator can tackle Class 1 anomalies solo without a problem (yep, done it); the Sleepers don't really aggro your drones terribly until C3 and above. Lots of options. In a Class 1 or Class 2, you're going to have a lot of day-trippers trying to solo sites or mine, so it's often a fun place to live if your goal is PvP.

If you can get your tank up to about 150HP/sec and your damage to about 150HP/sec, you'll do fine in anomalies in a class 1. Run your fit through EFT, Pyfa, or Osmium and go play!
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#11 - 2013-08-01 19:02:02 UTC
Yeah, probably a good ideal to just stick with low cost ships and mods.
TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#12 - 2013-08-01 19:57:21 UTC
Yep. Particularly if you are trying to solo. If you don't have good intel on egress/exit from the w-space system in which you're PvE'ing, eventually you'lll be ganked. Just a question of when.
Jobie Thickburger
Intergalactic Mining
Riplomacy
#13 - 2013-08-02 04:12:31 UTC
I still run C1's with my Raider Drake, Should be more than enough to handel everything you'd run into, without breaking the bank.

I tried a move into a C1 w/ a 5 man team and we quickly built BSs to allow for fire superiority.... Although it looked really cool all they did was make a large dent in our mineral reserve when they got blown up.

I HIGHLY reccomend though if you plan to live in a C1, Find yourself one without a Highsec static... The amount of trouble it causes leads to no end! We saw raiders about twice a day unless we were lucky enough to have the exit in BFE.

takes a lot more prep, But makes life that much better! I also reccomend bringing at least a Med assembly array if you go the Non-Easy static route... that way if you do lose a few ships, you can start to replace them :)
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#14 - 2013-08-02 05:34:02 UTC
Some clown was selling a C1 Blackhole with nullsec static. For 1M ISK, you can't go wrong!

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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#15 - 2013-08-02 05:43:32 UTC
Just remember to bring a noctis or salvaging destroyer as the only real form of income from a C1 is the nano ribbons.

If you are planning on moving in maybe go for a C2 with a static C1, that way you have a fresh supply of sites to run each day. The only problem I can see with moving into a C1 or 2 is that after a few months the sites might start to be a bit too easy. C3s are solo-able and have a much higher income so try not to invest too much into the WH (building Caps, Orcs in there ect) .

On a side note. if you are going to setup a POS in a WH, make sure you bring the tower, a few guns and at least a day or 2 of fuel + stront in the first indy load. My corp got a Faction tower kill with easy because someone tried to erect it in our WH and we camped the WH after they went to collect more stuff, it ran out of fuel 1 hour later (no stront either) so the bash was pretty easy.
Ms Valkyrie
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-08-03 09:30:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ms Valkyrie
Jobie Thickburger wrote:
I HIGHLY reccomend though if you plan to live in a C1, Find yourself one without a Highsec static... The amount of trouble it causes leads to no end!


I will preface this with that fact I am a wh newb. However, I do find this sentiment confusing. Why would your static matter? If you are living in a wormhole and not farming your static then generally wouldn't you only keep your static open for a short ammount of time while using it?

As for the topic of the OP I am actually considering HACs after the rebalance. I have always wanted to do some casual farming of c1s and been trying to figure out a cheap (non t3) and fast way to farm c1s. My first test was with a HAM tengu with a noctis alt and boy was that fast. 3-5 minutes to clear a site was quite nice. However, these days im finding myself less enthusastic to multibox so then I started exploring single character options.

The first option I have been testing out for one character options would be the vexor navy issue. With the velocity and tracking bonus on the drones I found that ogres did exceptionally well, even thought I just had one omni fitted. Throw in some salvage drones and now you got a single character scanning, killing, salvaging at what I would consider a resaonble rate (about 15 minutes per anom).

That being said, I am quite looking forward to the ishtar with the hac changes upcoming. With the extra tracking the ishtar will have for heavy drones and an additonal mid for an additonal omni I forsea that the ishtar will be quite the c1 eater.
AtomYcX
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-08-03 10:20:41 UTC
Ms Valkyrie wrote:
If you are living in a wormhole and not farming your static then generally wouldn't you only keep your static open for a short ammount of time while using it?.


Have you tried rolling the static in a C1? Maximum mass 20m per jump, 1bn total mass. 25 round trips at best, no thanks.
Marsan
#18 - 2013-08-03 15:42:28 UTC
AtomYcX wrote:
Ms Valkyrie wrote:
If you are living in a wormhole and not farming your static then generally wouldn't you only keep your static open for a short ammount of time while using it?.


Have you tried rolling the static in a C1? Maximum mass 20m per jump, 1bn total mass. 25 round trips at best, no thanks.


Dear lord let me 2nd this rolling a C1 static is horrible. With only a couple of people it easily can take an hour. Even with 5-10 people you are talking 20-30 minutes.

Where as a C2-3 with a couple of Orcas, and BS can be rolled in a few minutes.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#19 - 2013-08-04 03:04:32 UTC
I guess my plan was to do pi and wh gas and try my hand at sleepers.
But if that post is correct guess c1's get lots of PvP traffic which I was really not hoping was the case so I guess I will look elsewhere.
Raptors Mole
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-08-07 10:11:30 UTC
C1 is fine if there are only a couple of you.

Traffic is dependant on how you manage your statics. C1, C2, C3 - irrelevent really.

Hi sec - most traffic. Easy logistics
Low Sec - a lot less. more difficult logistics
Null - less again. pita logistics

So its finding the balance you want.

Rolling C1 WH is a pita though, but that has already been explained.
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