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106 days until I'm viable?

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Othran
Route One
#21 - 2013-08-01 12:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Jose Black wrote:
snip rant


Touched a nerve obviously Lol

I said what I did because in my experience* its true.

The alts have long since forgotten what its like to only have one character; the wierdos who have only one character in starter corp for years have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to corps/lowsec/nullsec/life in general.

YMMV of course.

*4+ months in starter corp; then 7 or 8 alts spending between 1-10 months in various starter corps.

Edit - you do realise I'm on about blocking/ignoring them in-game mmm?
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#22 - 2013-08-01 12:43:25 UTC
Grrrr Forum made my 2000 word essay disappear. Not typing it again.

Good luck

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-08-01 12:48:00 UTC
Flying solo, it takes longer, because you've got to put together a full slate of skills, and find a ship that will be good enough at a bunch of them to work, and that does take time.

Two noobs in more specialized ships can make life hell for one more experienced person, though. If one's flying a Condor with a long point, and the other's flying a Merlin with a scram and blasters, that can be a challenge even for a veteran. (Assuming the veteran's not backed up by multiple boosters, like a Loki/Legion combo parked off behind a POS forcefield, of course).

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

Sebelling Spacey
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-08-01 14:21:11 UTC
Find a smaller corp that does group level 4 missions and be their logi. No need for you to have all the skills in the world to help them out. Then you can keep training to get the logi cruisers while being useful already.
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-08-01 14:58:00 UTC
Also mate, remember that Skill training in Eve loosely follows the 80/20 rule. On your 106 day plan you can be flying that t1 logi cruiser at 80% efficiency in around 21 days, the final 20% of skill boosts taking around 85 days.

There are very few skills you need to 5 to have fun.

"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7

Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#26 - 2013-08-01 15:19:34 UTC
One could always find a drone based, PvE mission runner and offer to tag along and keep their precious drones at full health. Even a novice in a logistics frigate can handle that easily enough, as drones are notorious for their lack of hit points, and it saves the host pilot from having to pack their own repair equipment (and instead bring more actual weapons along, which makes missions go a little bit faster).
Shane Saken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-08-01 16:36:32 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Harley McMacho MD wrote:
I must premise that I have little to no interest in PvP.



EVE probably isn't the game for you then, especially if you want to focus on Logistics.

I thought the same thing........ You may have no interest in it but it will find you. You may wanna re look into PVP as it is highly sought in PVP and not so much PVE.
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#28 - 2013-08-02 05:02:17 UTC
As other folks have noted - many corps like to run group missions and would welcome a logi pilot on those. Some of what you may have been running into in general chat is the tendency of people in EVE to mistrust folks they don't know. This isn't like many other MMOs where someone in a 'healing' role is automatically welcome in a group - and if you read around on the forums a bit you'll find enough tales of scams and betrayals to know why. But, once you have some friends and corpmates, you will find that like most other MMOs, people willing to do the 'healing role' are welcomed.

As an oddball suggestion, you could pick up some drone skills and a drone-centered ship, fit an remote repair module in one of your high slots, and get some practice being your own group while running lower-level missions. It will give you a chance to get a feel for target switching and rep timing and aggro management and such while soloing. And drone skills aren't wasted - logistics drones are one of the 'healing' tools that are a key element of some of the later logistics ships.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-08-02 06:00:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Jose Black wrote:
In my opinion you're thinking too much of classes and specialization here. You should make your 106 day plan a lets say 150 day plan and have fun all along the way there.

Likely you're planning to train support / fitting skills anyways. Those together with the ship skill will help with other roles too.
You just have to add some weapon system skill to a somewhat decent level so you can do non logistic PVE too. You're not going to be a worse "healer" just because you mixed combat skills into your training. It will just take longer until you get perfect at logistics. And that is longer in calendar days, not longer hours at grinding.

If you keep your eyes open you will encounter quite some people that would enjoy the company of a logistics ship and pilot doing their PVE.


I will just add... The few times I was in a npc corp for a day or 2 I have seen the kind of advice people who are in NPC and stay in NPC corps give. I would as a general rule ignore everything they say.... EVER.

If your planning on specializing in a single ship normally you would have a goal your trying to achieve by doing so. However that goal would be alot clearer from when you understand the role you might be play in the corp.

If not, have fun don't let others dictate your career choice. As other have mentioned EVE follows the 80/20 rule. Fly some ships do some missions, join a corp find out what makes the game exciting for you and then focus your training to make what you found work better for you.

Just to make things easier. This is how I approached it.

I knew I wanted to PVP. That is all I cared about since my first kill.

I did not want to hamstring myself by a single race so I trained the following path.

All Races Frigates/Support/Weapons to lvl5. AFter that I started with all races Cruisers/support/weapons to lvl5 and so on. Only recently did I start focusing on Battleships.

That Idea might seem boring to some people that want to get in a battleship asap but that is the path I chose. I had fun all the way through. In November I would be going on doing what I started 3 years ago and not a day goes by were I regret it.

If you have any questions your more than welcome to ask my ingame. I will be next to useless on indy/pve questions though since I have not even finished my tutorial missions yet.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-08-02 06:53:19 UTC
Jose Black wrote:
*Snip*

NPC corp dude is mad.

More news at 11.
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