EVE General Discussion

What makes you say you peaked?

The next step isn't a place in Eve, nor is it any kind of PVE content.

The content in Eve is the players. Go find some you like and fly with them. Find some you don't like and make their time challenging. Wander around, meet people.

Mining, missions, etc etc is all the means to an end, not a long term goal.

(BTW, piracy isn't blowing up everything you see for spite, its doing it for sport or profit.)

I think you're missing the whole point of the game. You make a lot of excuses for why you can't do something, when other people do those things just fine so those problems are with you, not the game.

The only answer to your question is to do whatever you want and you can't expect anyone else to tell you what that is. Figure it out for yourself, be creative and don't let yourself be restricted by social norms or perceived boundaries. It's only a game so screw the consequences.

I've been playing Eve for four years now, and I've yet to "peak" - every day, I learn something new. Every day, this game surprises me. My enthusiasm for the game just continues to grow, and as corny as it sounds, I cannot imagine my life without Eve in it.

Eve is a game of beauty, not just graphically, but within the day to day interactions of it all, the people, the tactics, the choices each of us make, the moments where everything changes, without warning, often without true understanding of how and why. I often joke that Eve is not a game, but a lifestyle choice.

The beauty of mining isn't the mining itself, it's the gathering of a group of friends, chitchatting and gossiping on coms while drinking a bear.

The beauty of lowsec isn't the risk v. the reward - which is much more balanced than you may think - but the thrill of the chase, the hunt, the kill ... in FW lowsec, it's the fighting for a bigger cause in a war that even though you know it will never end, can never truly be won, you can make a difference, you can upset the apple cart of your opposing militia. Piracy is so much more than "killing absolutely anything and everything simply for spite." In fact, I would dare to say that most pirates RARELY kill for spite, but for the challenge of seeing if they can actually do it.

The beauty of wormhole space is the solitude, in fact, but it is also the feast-or-famine nature of wormhole space; the hours of solitude broken by the sudden invasion of an overwhelming force... will you make it back to your pos before they tackle you? Or will you be able to spring a surprise on them, destroying them, protecting the home you have worked so hard to build in such hostile space, knowing that every day, at any moment, a force can come in and wipe out everything you have built up, losing billions in hours. If you find sleepers sites only "somewhat more lucrative than other aspects," you're doing it wrong. Wormhole space is truly the wild west, the gold rush of Eve, where you can make and lose billions in a day.

The beauty of nullsec is beyond measure, beyond description... from the high level politics and international-level machinations of the big alliances, to the small day-to-day roaming gangs of close-knit friends, looking for a good fight, looking for a target, a challenge... the rank and file sov members working to build industrial infrastructures to build out their territory and create the very ships that will soon die defending or expanding their space, the independent small corps holding their own against all odds...nullsec is far and away so much more than you can imagine, until you have lived it. I do not live in sov space, but I do live in NPC nullsec, where I am free to roam whereever I want, looking for the good fight, win or lose, because the rush of it all is beyond measure, beyond what any other game I have ever played brings to me. I still find my heart racing and my hands shaking after a Good Fight™, win or lose :) And that keeps me logging in, day after day. That rush, and sharing it with the friends, nay, family, I have become a part of in this game.

But ultimately, all of these aspects of the game are just means to an end, and that "end" is the primary beauty of Eve: Eve is whatever you decide you want it to be, for you.

@OP

Stop doing the same thing every day, stop worrying about how much isk you're making per hour, the game becomes fun again, I've played since beta....

I re-activated account to check last "exploration expansion" - clearly I wasted my time as many times before. In a week account will expire and I feel it will be frozen for a very long time because I gave up my faith into CCP's ability to deliver anything interesting.

Grief. Steal. Scam. Smack in local. Blow up ships that can't fight back. Use ECM brazenly. Win trust and then betray that trust. ***** about corp members behind their back. Join a corp and cause a drama implosion. Gank PvE fits. AFK cloak. Awox. Blob. Harvest tears. Troll the forums.

PvP. Try it.

I think you are looking at it all wrong.

You are looking at ways to make isk to help you do the end game things. To me end game in EVE isn't seeing how much isk i can make. It's meeting new people, trying out new positions in corp/alliance like becoming an FC or a director. Maybe you should start a corp and make it grow. See if you can create a merc corp, or a wormhole corp that everyone will fear. Or you can explore the meta game of alts for spys and test your wits against the strongest nul sec alliances. To me those are the end game of EVE

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If you are looking for PvE maybe try incursions?

And don't tell wormhole corps "there's no point in really going beyond the cheapest insurable ships and modules for anything other than mission-running" or we will find out were doing PvP all wrong in our 2 billion isk T3s

Although I kind of agree with most of your points, you are missing something pretty big.

What your not doing, is interacting with people enough. Now, I am probably not the best person to lecture you because I haven't really been playing much or doing anything very exciting in Eve for some time now, but bare with me.

Eve is like life. There is a lot to do, but at the end of it all when it really comes down to it there isn't a point to any of it. The same can be said of all games really. You need to find a niche, and get into the community of it and interact with other players. My personal niche has always been small gang PvP, and I interact with other players by offering my corp (or just my) assistance in wars against war dec corps. When I am in my own corp I open a common channel for them to communicate with me, or if I am in their corp then I just use their chats or TS3.

When I log on I get lots of people saying hi, and thanking me for my help, and asking me to run a small gang roam with them or asking my opinion. And that is hugely gratifying to know that I have had an effect. You can run as many mission as you want and mine more than you can dream of, but at the end of it nothing will feel like its changed. Most of the content in Eve comes from interaction.