Intergalactic Summit

While I will readily admit that the Empire has prejudice issues, we've never claimed that it is impossible to become one of us. On the contrary, we encourage it. Historically we do take a rather long view as to what that entails, but as 100% Khanid, I'm a clear example of that fact.

What a rather brilliant reply. No really. You've conflated mechanics with electronics like a professional politician! What I'm left wondering is if you're just plain ignorant of what the E in E-War stands for, or know full well, and that's why you opted for the shortened version. If it's the latter, then I have to admit that was some neat sleight-of-hand.

Maybe it's not quite so cynical and Dobie is just being a bore again, I hear some of you thinking. It's not a distinction you care to draw, and this is just semantics. Well, think about a starbase in reinforced. The computers and electronics are off (including your E-War batteries) but the mechanics, the arty batteries, they're still good to go until the last round. That's the difference neatly illustrated.

As for you Ms. Akahoshi, since it seems every argument against you is some kind of ad posthominem (eh? see what I did there?) I'm going to have to think a bit on any further replies. The good news is that I have plenty of free time to do so, in between my Metaphysics classes at the UoC. xox

It's been such a long time since I've had a special admirer. I can't begin to express how delighted I am with you.

HAHAHA wow you really don't know your own history at all, do you? Not surprising - anything that doesn't aggrandize yourselves certainly gets edited until it fits the Shakor doctrine of Matari supremacy. Yes, go on believing that all the tribes just sat around the desert holding hands and singing songs of friendship with each other across the hundred plus worlds that they all settled entirely under their own power before the big bad Amarr came in and enslaved them, up until they rebelled with such perfect elan that it actually cost the Amarr victory in their war against the Jovians. And every time Shakor farts a rainbow comes flying out, too.




Find an excuse to kill everyone in the galaxy that doesn't meet your standards of genetic perfection (read: tribal blood purity), then move in and take their land. Not so hard after all, actually.




And it's exactly that sort of thinking that drives so many to leave. You know how to spot a smart Matari? By the fact that they're no longer loyal to or living in the Republic. You can spot them because they don't give a roe's arse about the purity of their bloodlines or crap that happened anywhere from three to a dozen centuries ago. They are instead living in the present, living for themselves and living for something other than being fuel the Republic's war machine.

Go on, scream "Race Traitors!" - you know you want to.




Oh but here is where you're wrong, or right, depending on how you look at it. You're right that to the Republic being Matari means being the private property of the Republic, ready to be reclaimed at any time they need more conscripts - and yes I chose those words intentionally.

The problem is that Matari outside the Republic don't feel the same. Do you want to know how many Matari died at the hands of other Matari during the Jarizza attack? The countless numbers of Matari who died defending their homes & families from Matari invaders?

And the sickest part about that was this: That those who perished for their loyalty were branded as "traitors" by the Republic, because in Shakor's oh so very blind eyes loyalty to him takes precedence over all other loyalties - be they to God, home or family. Move over, Heth.

In the Republic, being Matari means everything. Outside the Republic? Not so much. Other things take priority - things like home, family, and sometimes even loyalty the nation that you actually live in - something which the Republic can't seem to get through their thick heads.

We're not all genocidal monsters flying Shakor banners while fanatically carrying out the Republic's not-so-thinly-veiled human eugenics program, and that's something the Republic is just going to have to accept one day. Until they do, however, it's going to be Matari on Matari blood until the Republic acknowledges our freedom to choose to be who and what we want.

Nice to know I'm not the only one to draw that parallel. Shakor's just quieter.

The IGS has been something besides this for the past year or so now?

Huh.

I desire very much for Shakor to assume room temperature. That is quite common knowledge, and has been for years.

I doubt most of the talking heads here will care. They see a bandwagon, it must be boarded.

Honestly, Starfire, if I were Shakor, I wouldn't see any reason to change.

The Federation has (so far) tolerated his behavior. CONCORD has tolerated his behavior. And despite your desires, Electus Matari not only tolerates his behavior, but you support it to the extent of pulling the trigger on allies when he says "shoot". Perhaps there's a dissenting voice trying to tell him to calm down, but I'm certainly not aware of it.

My impression is that things are getting pretty out of control in the Republic. That a lot of you are looking around and wondering what the hell happened. That's a pretty bad place to be, and I sympathize.

Hardly. Things were out of control back when Midular was struggling to run the government and getting no-where. The Elder's purge of proven traitors largely cleared house and allowed for the Republic to begin getting back on its feet. It was always going to be a slow process but now that the Tribal has been formally convened we are seeing clear signs of progress.

"encourage"? I think you don't know what the term means. Invading and enslaving people to force them to become "one of you" is not encouraging.




There's also the problem that so many immediately call any Matari they disagree with, on anything, a Shakorite, and there's very little distinction made between "shakor" bashing and "matari bashing," as people tend to just say "Minmatar" and only bring out the Shakor reference when they start calling us Shakorites.





I'm honestly undecided as to whether the IGS is a waste of my time or not. Considering that it's easy enough for me to submit posts here while doing other things so that it's not really taking away from my time spent on other activities and the fact that there may be someone who learns something of value from these discussions . . .

There are a few people whom I do consider a waste of time to respond to, and I don't actually respond to them, such as Katran Luftschreck and that disgusting Fred fellow.



We didn't fight simply because Shakor told us to. We fought because a battle broke out between our side and an opposing side, and it was our duty to assist our side in the battle. This is not something that sits easy. Had we not joined the fight, perhaps the Republic Fleet would have lost with fewer ships downed on the Federation side and thus fewer lives lost in total, but the only real option available to us was to try and help our side to win in the hopes that fewer of our Fleet's lives would be lost.

It wasn't just people on our side who came hoping to see things resolved peacefully and then firing on an ally when the fighting broke out. There were plenty of capsuleers assisting the Federation Navy in that battle, firing on their allies, the Minmatar Republic.

And we did not join the fray until after both fleets were fully engaged in the battle.



I love how you attempt to discount the presence of progress being made by trying to put words in his mouth as to what that progress is.

And, whether or not Shakor should be a continued part of the progress we are making is another matter, one I choose not to comment on directly.