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Blue on blue attacks - Diana Kim, Pyre Falcon, The Republic, The Federation

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Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2013-07-30 20:03:50 UTC
Sure, but at least the Republicans know we're aware that an apology was made. Might help with the obligatory vitriol to follow.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-07-30 20:04:00 UTC
Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:
You know what? In the end, for me, the thing that's really been filling me with anger over this whole thing isn't so much the generalized 'grieving for our lost soldiers'. It's grieving for one guy. A friend I've known since college, who I've considered practically family (and if you know anything about how I view family, you know what that means). He had the bad luck to be on one of the Moros dreadnoughts that was destroyed by our good allies the Republic.

I've been pretty public about this - hell, I mentioned it yesterday. From Republicans I've talked to I've gotten a) crowing over the event; b) arguments that he's just one guy, and we've all killed so many, so it shouldn't matter; c) arguments that he was a soldier and thus I shouldn't be upset if he died in battle. Mostly, though, I've gotten silence. It's as if it simply doesn't occur to anyone that this is something to be angry about.

Now you come along and say that Matari grief is deeper and stronger than the rest of ours. You defend the idea that we don't grieve for our dead as much as they grieve for the Ray.

Please tell me why the hell I should give a Fedo's hair over "allies" that treat me like this?

Please tell me why any of the families or friends of those tens of thousands should care about the "allies" that killed them and then rubbed this sort of crap in their faces?


To prove Midular right.

My commiserations on your loss.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-07-30 20:25:49 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
Kim, I have put up with your childish vitriol for far too long now. The fact that very few seem willing to take you to task for your treasonous actions is saddening.

At the risk of being labeled foolish given the disparity between our respective combat ability, but I am not going to tolerate your snipish comments any longer. I am not challenging you to a duel, Kim, seeing as you have no honor and, well, you'll make the same statement about all Gallente. No, this is not a duel at all. I'm calling you out, you hypocritical little toady. I am done with your bullying and brutish behavior and seeing as I cannot engage you on a more civilized playing field, I will stoop to your level and entertain your desire for blood and carnage.

So, here's the deal. I am offering you the chance to face me in space. I realize that I'll likely be hardly worth the challenge to such a pilot as yourself, but frankly, I don't give a **** anymore. Here's the chance to come get some Gallente blood.

You can name the time and place and I will show up. The only stipulation that I am going to make on you is that you make the time and place known to the public. So if you are willing to accept the challenge, I await your response. Otherwise, stuff a sock in it and stop flapping your lips.

Interesting. That's how you, gallentean, reply to my points to your reasoning about the Federation, with a violence. You can't stand the truth, and simply throw ridiculous groundless insults (like calling me honorless, treasonous and stuff like that) and resolving to the violence. Quite gallentean move, indeed.

But you, gallentean, forgot, that it is my job to kill ones like you. I don't really need to pursuit and kill you personally among others, since there are a lot more gallenteans flying around, and, according to your own words, you are not a real threat to me. What would I achieve then from killing you? It won't make you feel pain. It won't educate you, or make you smarter. It won't even reduce gallentean population, since you reappear in a new clone.

I daily kill much more pilots, who present much more threat than you will ever will. Of course, I could kill you, and most probably will do it when I meet you, but please understand one more thing: I won't participate in your stupid gallentean show that you want to make of your death. I am a professional, not a show doll like you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#84 - 2013-07-30 20:29:33 UTC
There's a great deal that's been said I would comment on, but it seems others have beaten me to it, my opinions on the matter are well stated elsewhere.

However

Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:
It's an election year, after all.


Next year. Unless term limits suddenly stopped being five years.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#85 - 2013-07-30 20:41:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Steffanie Saissore
Diana Kim wrote:

Interesting. That's how you, gallentean, reply to my points to your reasoning about the Federation, with a violence. You can't stand the truth, and simply throw ridiculous groundless insults (like calling me honorless, treasonous and stuff like that) and resolving to the violence. Quite gallentean move, indeed.

But you, gallentean, forgot, that it is my job to kill ones like you. I don't really need to pursuit and kill you personally among others, since there are a lot more gallenteans flying around, and, according to your own words, you are not a real threat to me. What would I achieve then from killing you? It won't make you feel pain. It won't educate you, or make you smarter. It won't even reduce gallentean population, since you reappear in a new clone.

I daily kill much more pilots, who present much more threat than you will ever will. Of course, I could kill you, and most probably will do it when I meet you, but please understand one more thing: I won't participate in your stupid gallentean show that you want to make of your death. I am a professional, not a show doll like you.


So, let me get this straight. You receive a public challenge and refuse? How very interesting Kim. Though I suppose I should not be surprised by such cowardly behaviour seeing as you locked and engaged friendly units without thought or warning.

So, just so that we are clear then, you publicly refuse an open invitation to have some sport at my own personal expense?

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-07-30 20:59:36 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:

So, let me get this straight. You receive a public challenge and refuse? How very interesting Kim. Though I suppose I should not be surprised by such cowardly behaviour seeing as you locked and engaged friendly units without thought or warning.

So, just so that we are clear then, you publicly refuse an open invitation to have some sport at my own personal expense?

First.
I do not engage friendly units.

Second.
If you possess no threat, than why did you add "cowardly" here?

Third.
You can't buy me with what I have already. I am already killing gallentes, and their deaths mean much more than yours.

And the last.
I already said, that I am not participating in blasted gallentean shows.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
AimogMart
#87 - 2013-07-30 21:12:21 UTC
One would think that when the entire rest of the cluster seems to think you're in the wrong, it may be time for the Republican apologists to drop the BS about how there's any justification at all for Coliele. For Heaven's sake, even True Slaves have pointed out how morally bankrupt and hypocritical it is to cry foul over every perceived slight from the Federation but then shout down any complaints about the murder of thousands.

I imagine they'll ignore even that however and continue to insist how they are still the only wounded party and the only one who has any right to complain.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#88 - 2013-07-30 21:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
On this subject, Oiritsuu is back, kirjuun.

If you thought the Provists were crying before, wait until the Mother of Kalaakiota is done with them.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#89 - 2013-07-30 21:48:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Steffanie Saissore wrote:

So, let me get this straight. You receive a public challenge and refuse? How very interesting Kim. Though I suppose I should not be surprised by such cowardly behaviour seeing as you locked and engaged friendly units without thought or warning.

So, just so that we are clear then, you publicly refuse an open invitation to have some sport at my own personal expense?

First.
I do not engage friendly units.

Second.
If you possess no threat, than why did you add "cowardly" here?

Third.
You can't buy me with what I have already. I am already killing gallentes, and their deaths mean much more than yours.

And the last.
I already said, that I am not participating in blasted gallentean shows.



I'm not trying to buy you anything, worm.

That said, carry on your cowardly treasonous ways. The offer was extended, and you've proven to me exactly what I needed to know.

In the meantime, I suggest you drop your pretense at being a serious Caldari pilot and go limp off after your hero and idol, Mr. Heth. I'm certain he would be glad to have your fawning adoration and delusional outlook to console himself.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#90 - 2013-07-30 23:02:37 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Steffanie Saissore wrote:

So, let me get this straight. You receive a public challenge and refuse? How very interesting Kim. Though I suppose I should not be surprised by such cowardly behaviour seeing as you locked and engaged friendly units without thought or warning.

So, just so that we are clear then, you publicly refuse an open invitation to have some sport at my own personal expense?

First.
I do not engage friendly units.

Second.
If you possess no threat, than why did you add "cowardly" here?

Third.
You can't buy me with what I have already. I am already killing gallentes, and their deaths mean much more than yours.

And the last.
I already said, that I am not participating in blasted gallentean shows.



First.
Pyre Falcon is a Caldari combat unit with a proven record and no accusations of treason leveled against them by anyone sane. By any standard you care to name, it is a friendly unit.

Second.
Refusing to engage in combat against an inferior force could be considered a cowardly act, so the appellation is not unjustified.

Points three and four are acceptable. I suppose 50-50 is a reasonable record? Keep it up, Puppy.

Oh, and...

Quote:
Interesting. That's how you, gallentean, reply to my points to your reasoning about the Federation, with a violence. You can't stand the truth, and simply throw ridiculous groundless insults (like calling me honorless, treasonous and stuff like that) and resolving to the violence. Quite gallentean move, indeed.


You broke my irony meter. That's the second I've lost today, I'm going to run out at this rate.
Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-07-31 00:08:31 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:
It's an election year, after all.


Next year. Unless term limits suddenly stopped being five years.


You're totally right. For some reason, I thought the last elections were in YC110. More coffee, please...

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Shintoko Akahoshi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2013-07-31 00:10:07 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
My commiserations on your loss.


Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-07-31 02:56:43 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

First.
Pyre Falcon is a Caldari combat unit with a proven record and no accusations of treason leveled against them by anyone sane. By any standard you care to name, it is a friendly unit.

Incorrect.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

Second.
Refusing to engage in combat against an inferior force could be considered a cowardly act, so the appellation is not unjustified.

Lack of desire of wasting my time and ammunition on a target, destruction of which will achieve nothing and that represent zero to none threat could be considered as a cowardly act only by such ignorant gallentean bootlickers as you.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

Points three and four are acceptable. I suppose 50-50 is a reasonable record? Keep it up, Puppy.

What is with this 'Puppy' thing? Did your mother call you like that, Puppy?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-07-31 02:59:19 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:

I'm not trying to buy you anything, worm.

That said, carry on your cowardly treasonous ways. The offer was extended, and you've proven to me exactly what I needed to know.

In the meantime, I suggest you drop your pretense at being a serious Caldari pilot and go limp off after your hero and idol, Mr. Heth. I'm certain he would be glad to have your fawning adoration and delusional outlook to console himself.

Look, gallentean filth, that I am not going participate in your stupid indecent show, doesn't mean that I won't kill you when I will see a chance.
Ta ta.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#95 - 2013-07-31 04:15:37 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
On this subject, Oiritsuu is back.


I do adore Oiritsuu! Bit of a role model in fact. Really, she should be in charge. Good heavens! I've been meaning to write to her about plants! Or at least fungi...
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#96 - 2013-07-31 07:23:27 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

First.
Pyre Falcon is a Caldari combat unit with a proven record and no accusations of treason leveled against them by anyone sane. By any standard you care to name, it is a friendly unit.

Incorrect.


That wasn't an opinion, that was demonstrable fact. It's ok though, Puppy. I won't hold your delusions against you.

Diana Kim wrote:
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:
Points three and four are acceptable. I suppose 50-50 is a reasonable record? Keep it up, Puppy.

What is with this 'Puppy' thing? Did your mother call you like that, Puppy?


Simple. You bark at anything that moves, you gnaw ineffectually at ankles, and you're an embarrassment to your people due to your habit of pissing all over the IGS.

You're also dumb as dirt and totally incapable of learning a thing. You're not human, Puppy, because humans can learn from their mistakes and do more than parrot out the same drivel over and over. I'll call you by your name again when you show that you've got the slightest scrap of ingenuity, originality - or indeed anything beyond what a rabid drooler pup can achieve.

I'm not holding my breath. All that self-loathing at being a half-blood abomination has clearly poisoned your mind.

It's such a delicious irony. All that screaming hatred about racial purity and destruction of the Gallente, when you're about as pure as mud. I wonder if you actually have Gallente blood somewhere in there? Is this whole vendetta of yours just based around quite how much you despise yourself?

You're a perfect demonstration of everything I find inferior. I don't normally take insults well, but from you, I just smile. You can say anything you wish to me, and I'll just laugh, because I know what you really are.

You don't get mad at a puppy for barking at you. It's just what they do. Kind of adorable, until it gets too noisy. Then you throw it outside.

Keep barking, Puppy. I'm enjoying playing with you.
Kourdus
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#97 - 2013-07-31 07:33:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kourdus
This back and forth between you and Kim was quite entertaining to read. Until this.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

I'm not holding my breath. All that self-loathing at being a half-blood abomination has clearly poisoned your mind.

It's such a delicious irony. All that screaming hatred about racial purity and destruction of the Gallente, when you're about as pure as mud. I wonder if you actually have Gallente blood somewhere in there? Is this whole vendetta of yours just based around quite how much you despise yourself?

You're a perfect demonstration of everything I find inferior.


You are what you say and do. that's all.

I don't know if Kim is actually a halfbreed, as you say she is. but if so, there is nothing for her to self-loathe, nor is she in any way an "abomination" or inferior because of it.

Her actions are the basis for how she should be judged. not her ancestry.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#98 - 2013-07-31 08:14:03 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

First.
Pyre Falcon is a Caldari combat unit with a proven record and no accusations of treason leveled against them by anyone sane. By any standard you care to name, it is a friendly unit.

Incorrect.


Kim never did get back to me on how or why this was the case. Funny that.
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#99 - 2013-07-31 08:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Repentence Tyrathlion
Kourdus wrote:
This back and forth between you and Kim was quite entertaining to read. Until this.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

I'm not holding my breath. All that self-loathing at being a half-blood abomination has clearly poisoned your mind.

It's such a delicious irony. All that screaming hatred about racial purity and destruction of the Gallente, when you're about as pure as mud. I wonder if you actually have Gallente blood somewhere in there? Is this whole vendetta of yours just based around quite how much you despise yourself?

You're a perfect demonstration of everything I find inferior.


You are what you say and do. that's all.

I don't know if Kim is actually a halfbreed, as you say she is. but if so, there is nothing for her to self-loathe, nor is she in any way an "abomination" or inferior because of it.

Her actions are the basis for how she should be judged. not her ancestry.


Oh, I quite agree.

That came from a discussion - I'm sorry, I should say hissy fit - that she shared recently where she went on a long rant about racial purity, and demonstrated that she had serious issues on that front. She is also Achura/Civire mix.

I personally have no issue with it. Use the weapons you have, though. Dealing with Puppy is done best with her own tools, I find.

The 'inferior' remark was purely based on her behaviour, not her ancestry.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-07-31 12:18:03 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

That wasn't an opinion, that was demonstrable fact. It's ok though, Puppy. I won't hold your delusions against you.

No, it wasn't neither opinion, nor demonstrable fact.
Just your sick imagination.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

Simple. You bark at anything that moves, you gnaw ineffectually at ankles, and you're an embarrassment to your people due to your habit of pissing all over the IGS

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

Keep barking, Puppy. I'm enjoying playing with you.

Sorry, that I removed your inadequate ramblings in between, but I will give you an advice.
If you will ever stop barking yourself, say, for at least a minute, maybe you will be able to hear what others say, and not barks inside your own head.

But, meh, I wouldn't bet on this.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.