Player Features and Ideas Discussion

NOMAD and NOSMUG. Pls keep the space politics to another thread.

What do you think we could do to change sov mechanics so that lots of players can fight each other in a way that can actually be handled by today's technology and (gasp) might actually be fun? Because there doesn't seem to be a computer in the world that can handle 4000 players being on the same grid as each other, and while 6VDT was one-off fringe case where the Jita supernode was brought to its knees, it's still true that big tidi brawls are painfully slow and quite boring to actually participate in.

The problem is that the fundamental game mechanics of Eve are designed to force players to encounter each other at points in space, because space is big and when Eve first started it needed a mechanism for players to actually interact with each other. , the stargates that we use and the way the warp drive works all force players into single points and these mechanics are too deeply ingrained in the game to mess with or change.

So, is it possible to mitigate the problems somewhat and devise a system, particularly sov mechanics, that don't require one single fight over one single object at one single point, and can instead spread the action out over a wider area or several starsystems to ease the load on the servers?

I mean we had like at least 8 fleets up for 6VDT at one point simply due to the hard cap limit of 256 members in a single fleet, but all of those fleets ended up doing the same thing and piling on to the same grid, wouldn't it be more interesting if those fleets were all working on completing different objectives instead?

I think it'd be interesting from a gameplay perspective, because sov hasn't changed at all since Dominion and any kind of shakeup would be interesting and refreshing. But it's absolutely necessary from a technical perspective because as Eve gets more and more players there's no reason to expect the blobs to get any smaller

Area of effect damage upon ship destruction.

IOW you die, your ship explodes and it damages all other nearby ships. In some situations it might cause a snowballing escalation of explosions.

BAM blobs over.

I appreciate your input into this brainstorming session on HOW TO REDUCE SERVER LOAD during big engagements.

I dunno I had a bunch of fun getting legion and zealot km's.

Session changes such as docking, undocking, jumping in and out of systems (and I assume ship and pod deaths) cause TIDI to skyrocket. A snowballing escalation of session changes as thousands of players lose their ships, enter pods, and then leave the system as their pods are destroyed by AoE damage ship explosions, is probably not going to be conducive server stability.

We need a system that prevents people from needing to blob up, not one that destroys the server if they do. That never stopped people from piling into a system during the pre-tidi blackscreen era.

Thanks for your input. Also please continue trying to be condescending, it's quite endearing to watch.



This is a NOSMUG thread, back to CAOD with you. Also in general it's not a good idea to talk about enjoying killmails after losing a titan.

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It's been suggested many times before: a multiple objective system, with each objective wearing down a systems sov to a critical point. There would be a mixture of small gang objectives up to full fleet action. Ideally, a combination of both over a period of time would be required in the end; more small gang work means less fleet work, but neither one completely replacing the other. Sometimes the goal is to make nullsec more accessible to small corps, sometimes the goal is to reduce structure bashing. Either way, it's the same solution.

What I haven't seen before is any suggestions on what the actual mechanics of such a system would be. Any takers?



They'd better. I live in highsec/NPC null because the sov mechanics are terribad. If this kind of change happened, I might actually go start playing real Eve.

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Some of those objectives need to be designed so that they are not mere HP sponges. Perhaps anchoring counter units and defending those (as the attacker) to mix things up? Also, it should be done so that a certain amount of damage can be done by roams a couple days in advance of the main fleet, to give roaming gangs some real meaning other then padding killboards.

I learned from looking at battle reports that only 1 Titan went down.