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My Tax Shelter 8
Operator XIII My Tax Shelter Likes received: 8	#1 - 2013-07-30 15:15:10 UTC I mission in Amarr space... Looking for top DPS with acceptable tank for Lvl 4's! (I suck at fitting armor ships, especially in PvE) Post whatcha got - thanks guys!

Bishop Xsi

Hotel Culiacan

Likes received: 100

#2 - 2013-07-30 16:53:06 UTC | Edited by: Bishop Xsi

[Armageddon Navy Issue, L4 Sansha/Blood Raider]

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Medium Remote Armor Repair System II

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones will obviously be a mix of Acolyte II's and Infiltrator II's, with a flight of EC-300's to give you half (if that) a chance against gankers. The remote armor repairer is there to rep your drones.

At all Level V skills:

DPS is 677 with Scorch L, 920 with Conflag L.
EM resist is 88.3; tanks 862 EHP/sec
Thermal resist is 84.7; tanks 663 EHP/sec
Cap stable without the remote armor repairer running

You can swap out the web for an afterburner if you want, and otherwise bling it out to your heart's content. Total cost as advertised is around 750 million. Do not skimp on the deadspace large armor rep.


Operator XIII My Tax Shelter Likes received: 8	#3 - 2013-07-30 17:38:22 UTC Are there any good mission fits for Beams instead of Pulses? I am currently only skilled in T2 Beams - getting T2 Pulses to lvl 4 is gonna take a while :(

Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 499
Marc Callan Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 499	#4 - 2013-07-31 10:01:45 UTC Beams are a tougher fitting challenge than pulses; you'll probably have to sacrifice low slots and/or rig slots if you want the powergrid to fit beams. You'll have to use sniper tactics, and T2 tachyon beams are about the most powergrid-hungry weapons around. "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

Lipstick Privateer

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 0

#5 - 2013-07-31 12:00:47 UTC | Edited by: Lipstick Privateer

I don't recommend trying to use t2 beams on an Armageddon. As other people in this thread mentioned, the fitting hoops you have to jump through are rather ridiculous and other, cheaper hulls do large beams better.

That said, if you're extremely determined and have a 5% power grid implant, this fits.

[Armageddon Navy Issue]

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]

Large Ancillary Current Router II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Curator II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

1098 dps @ 43km with guns and drones combined (if you don't have t2 sentries, why are you flying an Armageddon), tanks 582 dps against Sansha for 4 minutes with max skills. If you feel you need more cap than that, you can replace a Tracking Computer II with a Cap Recharger II to make the fit stable.

Again, I do not recommend this fit because it is rather terrible compared to other options, but following the constraints OP requested this is what you get.


Operator XIII My Tax Shelter Likes received: 8	#6 - 2013-07-31 14:01:36 UTC Duly noted - thanks

FaDoyToy 3,263
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263	#7 - 2013-07-31 17:55:04 UTC with odyssey tachs use less fitting and less cap, making beams more viable on a navy geddon (especailly since the navy geddon keeps the -10% cap/level) before it was nearly all eft warrioring, but I think you could pull a tach navy geddon off now. it will just be a bit expensive where I'd probably rather buy a nightmare or paladin. @ChainsawPlankto on twitter


Operator XIII My Tax Shelter Likes received: 8	#8 - 2013-07-31 20:37:32 UTC Lipstick Privateer wrote: (if you don't have t2 sentries, why are you flying an Armageddon) BTW, what's the deal with this statement? Navy Geddon gets no drone bonuses...??

Lipstick Privateer

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#9 - 2013-08-01 05:04:22 UTC | Edited by: Lipstick Privateer

Operator XIII wrote:

Lipstick Privateer wrote:

(if you don't have t2 sentries, why are you flying an Armageddon)

BTW, what's the deal with this statement? Navy Geddon gets no drone bonuses...??

Because it has a 200 m3 drone bay and 125 bandwidth and makes sacrifices in other areas to get them. If you're not going to use a ship's strength, why fly it over another more turret based ship?

Jack Miton

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 5,031

#10 - 2013-08-01 06:00:01 UTC

People be posting terrible fits...
Never try to make it cap stable, it isnt going to happen

Here you go:

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[Armageddon Navy Issue, L4 Train]
Centus B-Type Armor EM Hardener
Centus B-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Centus A-Type Large Armor Repairer

Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer
Imperial Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-EM Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Garde II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

pushes 1180 DPS with scorch, 1400 with IN MF, 1520 with conflag
tank is 600 odd vs sansha/bloods (which is what you should be running with this) which is plenty. drop the TE for another hard/EANM if youre a nancy.

There is no Bob.

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Lipstick Privateer Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 0	#11 - 2013-08-01 07:53:54 UTC Jack Miton wrote: People be posting terrible fits... ... Read his posts, he wants beams on a Navy Armageddon. Of course they're terrible fits.

Bishop Xsi

Hotel Culiacan

Likes received: 100

#12 - 2013-08-01 15:59:19 UTC

Jack Miton wrote:

The thermal resist on this fit is likely to get you killed in tougher missions like the Sansha version of Blockade if you can't use the T2 sentries (I forgot about those when I posted my fit, because I can't use them either). The amount of tracking disruption that goes on in that mission makes damage projection difficult (and tracking computers absolutely mandatory).

Operator XIII

My Tax Shelter

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#13 - 2013-08-01 22:31:07 UTC

Ok... so I don't have sentries skilled. What would be the better option for me shipwise than a Navy Geddon for burning through Amarr L4's?? Beams preferred, but if Pulse is seriously better all around - then I'll spend time skilling it.

Nightmare is a bit out of budget at the moment, and I can only afford a T2 fit to start out with. I will pimp out whatever I get ASAP tho, once the ISK starts flowing.

Suggestions?


Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#14 - 2013-08-01 22:59:13 UTC use a navpoc if you really want beams... though nightmare is a TON better. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Lipstick Privateer

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 0

#15 - 2013-08-02 21:00:15 UTC | Edited by: Lipstick Privateer

Seconding the Nightmare suggestion as long as you're talking about a pure damage boat and not a loot as you go boat. The Paladin is a close second, but I prefer the tracking bonus and shield tanking on the Nightmare to the armor tank (and therefore less lows) on the Paladin.

Everything else is far behind, though the Navy Apocalypse isn't awful.

EDIT: Just read the Nightmare is out of budget comment - then fly a t2 fit Oracle. It'll get the job done, just slower.

Missions & Complexes

My Tax Shelter

Hotel Culiacan

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

Brutor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

FaDoyToy

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State