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Not sure that's the case, yet. All this change does is warn a neutral RR that they're going to be repping someone with an aggression flag.

That would indeed be a change, but the announcement does not actually mention any such alteration — only that criminal flagging will be inherited, which is nothing new.

Oh dear. So many misinterpretations of the change. I'll try to make it clear:

Before this change you could get someone to rep you, and while they were repping you, you could cause a global criminal flag which they would inherit, and they would get no warning. Basically there was nothing the logistics pilot could to to prevent concordokken.

Now, if you cause global criminal flag, the logistics pilot's reppers will auto-disengage, and if the logistics pilot tries to re-engage them he'll get a warning pop-up.

OP is crying because he/she can no longer use concord as his/her personal carebear ganking pet.

If you have any further inqueries or require any further assistance, please don't hesitate to post again.

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How can anyone be against this change?
I mean, it's ok if you liked to stealthily 3 vs 1 a guy outside of a station when he thought he was getting a 1 vs 1, but trolling against the change on the forums? Now everyone knows you're a horrible player.

Deal with it, seriously.

What news? Nothing new was said.

No, it has worked like that for quite some time now. It was changed shortly after Incursion. Nothing of what is mentioned in that note is new.

Yes, there are many misinterpretations of this mechanic. Thinking that, as presented, it is being changed is one of them.


No, the question is “what is the change that people think they (or someobe else) is against?"

OP has never actually done it, nor planned to. Oh look you're very clever. Oh wait.

Here's a point you will fail to understand. OP likes hard games with dire consequences for even the smallest mistake.
Eve used to be that game.

Now you, and all the other little girls can miss the point entirely and say something irrelevant that you think sounds clever.
Well go on then... don't hold back now.

The problem is that concord was used as a high sec doomsday. You would plant a spy in a corp and call for remote reps in a figth, then you would insta the whole logistic chain with concord. Can we at least agree this is'nt what concord was intended as?

wait ... this was changed WAAAAAAY back in Incursions after people figured out they could get the RR chains concorded...

there's nothing that would stop you from repping someone after they get the GCC if you choose to restart the reppers...

GJ CCP If I'm in hi-sec, I'm entitled to know if the action I'm about to take will give someone else the right to shoot at me or not.

The change has nothing to do with GCC (which was fixed,) it has to do with can-flippers. It has nothing to do with logi being concordokken, it has to do with Slimy Worm.

tl;dr If you are in high-sec and someone you are about to rr can legally be shot at by anybody, you are given the option to not rep them (because if you do rr them, whoever can legally shoot them can now legally shoot you.)

Now if CCP would just nerf vanguard payouts about 20% then we'd be set.

Yet another one misunderstanding the issue. It is nothing to do with who you are going to rep, but the people you are already repping. People complaining that there is nothing you can do if someone decides to flag whilst you are repping them, here's a novel idea - STOP TRUSTING COMPLETE STRANGERS. There is literally no other facet of eve that requires you to trust strangers, so why should incursion farming be any different?

These ganks were a constant reminder that you shouldn't trust anybody and everybody, because a well placed spy, or a character with a little forward planning CAN get you blown up. Is that not the nature of eve?

If you were in lowsec would you fleet up with the same bunch of randoms? No? Why not? Because they might shoot you? Well, CCP has always stated that nowhere should be safe, not even highsec. If you are willing to let your guard down enough to not only fleet them, but to fly with them in your pimp fittings, and trust them enough to remote rep/be repped by them, then you deserve to face some kind of retribution.

But no you're totally right, highsec should be totally safe, and you should be allowed to farm incursions unmolested all day, because that takes skills, planning, dedication, and is in no way akin to the way that these awful cowardly people have been farming you idiots for the last 6 months.

Bottom line, is if you're going to put yourself in dangerous situations and rely on complete strangers to keep you alive, you deserve to be shot in the face. If you want a place where noone can hurt you no matter how many aggression mechanics you choose to ignore, then perhaps you should play something else.