Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i think its fairly clear from this thread that everyone thinks its embarrassing and ********

Alright, my opinions on these matters.

PI should be in its own group, as it is now. Yes, it's a small group. But in that group is a list of skills that are in a vacuum from every other skill in game. They only really affect other skills in their group. You can do PI completely independant of everything else, except for getting an industrial skill to fly something to scoop. PI isn't affected by any other skills, and PI skills affect nothing else. They should be left on their own for ease of training for that specific thing.

I would almost feel for a "Harvesting" group to separate the core mining skills from the processing skills, but the group would be tiny and there is a link between the two where the processing skills let you use mining crystals. Ah well, what can be done?

Subsystems should remain independant from Rigs. You could have ship modification and ship modularization or something like that. I give no fucks what you name it. I just don't think they should both be lumped together in one big blob of skills. First of all, Subsystem skills are unique in that they are the only skill you can lose SP in if you do take all steps to keep your clone updated. You can keep your pod alive and those can still be lost. I just think those are unique in their own right and should be left for easy access to reskill again rather than hunting through rigging skills.

Perhaps you could separate out the science skills into two groups, "Science" and "Researching". You get your more basic skills, such as Advanced Laboratory Operation, Laboratory Operation, Metallurgy, Science, and possibly Research and Research Project Management in this (but those latter two would require new names), and leave the advanced skills which are required mostly only for invention in their own separate group. That way we'd have more basic science skills, like those required to research your blueprints in their own group, and invention related skills in their own group. This idea is maybe not good, I'm not sure how I feel on it, just thought I'd put it out there.

Spaceship Command needs to stay. I'm not a pilot, I'm interfacing with the ship and inputting my commands, I'm using my unique knowledge to interface with it and optimize it. I'm not just a monkey who sits in a seat and decides where to point it.

Please read this: Missile Skill Rename

Proposed it ages ago, might be the right time to implement it.

BF

Small update.

• We're going to leave the "Spaceship Command" skill as such for now, even if things may change in the future.
• Same with the "Planetary Interaction" and "Subsystem" skill groups, we're not going to touch them based on received comments.
• "Multiple Targeting" and "Advanced Multiple Targeting" have been renamed "Target Management" and "Advanced Target Management".
• "Armor Honeycombing" has been renamed "Armor Layering".
• "Energy Management", "Energy Emission Systems" and "Energy Systems Operation" have been renamed "Capacitor Management", "Capacitor Emission Systems" and "Capacitor Systems Operation".

How about “Armor Optimisation”?

"Armor layering" implies adding armor, which isn't what the skill does.
"Armor honeycombing" implies making the armor lighter, which is exactly what the skill does.

Not sure why you need to change that one...

Good news for all of us ship commanders. Thank you.

Armor Layering is confusing with the module "Energized Armor Layering Membrane" . One solely affects armor plates while the other affects armor hitpoints regardless of whether plates have been installed.

Armor Honeycombing makes more sense, or alternatively something like Armor Plating Optimization, Armor Compositing

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Why "armor layering"? That implies the opposite of what the skill actually does, doesn't it? I fly mainly shield ships going into armor ships soon, training "Armor Layering" at first glance seems like I will be adding mass to the ships (more armor, more weight) when in reality its lightening the ship a bit. At work so I can't view the actual skill description.

Regardless... honeycombing makes more sense.

http://compositeswiki.org/honeycomb-structures/

Stick with honeycombing.

"Targeting" in that context isn't a verb, it's a noun (i.e., "the targeting of multiple targets", not "I am multiple targeting some targets"), just as "a killing" or "an opening" are nouns, although they're spelled the same way as the corresponding transitive verbs. It's perfectly fine to say something like "multiple opening strategies" (ex., in chess) or "multiple targeting systems" (ex., laser painter vs. GPS-guided bombs). But things can be correct and sound bad, and "multiple targeting" does.

Anyway, looks like they've already picked a better alternative.

Now if only they'd split Resource Harvesting (mining) and Resource Processing (refining) into different groups...

P.S. - I agree that "Armor Layering" sounds a bit ambiguous. Maybe "Armor Plate Optimization", if you really want to get rid of "honycombing", for some reason ?