Crime & Punishment

Has anyone attempted this?

Seems EvE has a growing problem with CareBear PvPers. CareBear PvPers being those “PvP” players that like CareBear mission runners will never leave highsec and only target easy kills in mission fits. All along claiming they are great PvPers and crying ever time a change is purposed to make grieving in highsec more dangerous. Because where will they be able to PvP? Low/Null sec? Yeah right they will never leave highsec. Latest such change would be the no insurance pay out for ships Concord POPs look at the various threads if you want to see CareBear PvPer’s tears.

They are easy to find, as they hang in systems with the most LV4 mission runners and their tactics are tired and old and can be spotted light years away.

Here is the Idea. Get several Mission running ships to run missions in same system. Have a tackler that will clock with each. In reserve in dead space have a few more PvP ships and some Logi and gang boosters.

The mission runners run the missions and wait until these worthless cowards come to set their trap. Does the normal thing and starts shooting wrecks. (Wait till the reach the wreck and start salvaging they love that). Also don’t use all turrets an maybe short range ammo give an illusion you can’t take out a wreck in a single volley.

Once they go red and taunt you take the bait and wait for their Gank ships to come. Might have to warp out of mission and come back. When the gank ships come it is time to tackle and call in reinforcements you will have your reserve as well as the other mission runner bait ships that will be able to respond. If you’re smart and don’t blob them, you might be able to create an illusion that they could win if they get a bigger ship and maybe a friend to aid if they take this bait you might get a 2 or 3 time POP out of them.

This can be followed up by suicide ganking Ninja-Salvagers and basically giving them the same grief the give others. While tears do little to fuel a starship I bet you can use it as some type of recreational lubricant?

Suicide ganking a ninja salvager will almost certainly result in a negative reward for the ganker. Ninja salvagers can't tractor wrecks so they won't use something like a Noctis. Chances are they'll use a frigate or destroyer, insured and fit with T1 mods.

As for calling in backup when mission thieves steal from your wrecks, your backup will have to be in the same corp unless you're only calling in logistics. And... if you steal from an NPC corp player aren't you only red to that one player, and not the entire NPC corp? That one I'm not 100% sure on.

The Idea is you are fleeted. But yes I belive the corp can kill you as well. Please note I am not talking about salvagers per say, as the ones that bait newer mision runners into giving them kill rites and coming back with 1-3 PvP fit Battle Ships.

Those purly stealing salvage not trying to bait PvP will not be the target of such a set up.

Spend 5 hours baiting a trap; kill maybe one salvage destroyer.

Waste of time.

Your idea fails because it hinges on carebears performing a set of actions that directly conflict with their inherent nature; the nature that makes them carebears in the first place. If these people were interested in (and capable of) taking the course of action you outlined, they wouldn't be carebears.

Also, I'd like to add that pvpers/griefers/baiters/"CareBear PvPers," or whatever other label you wish to apply to this player group, aren't really afraid of losing ships in battles with other players. Well, that might be a generalization; there are some that pursue pvp, but shun any and all risk (systematic and non-systematic) associated with it. We basically consider these people the soulless ginger stepchildren of the family, and treat them the same way we treat those who wish for EVE to have a pvp on/off flag.

By all means, I absolutely love your idea. I just don't think it will ever take off to a significant degree.

Thanks good to know migh look into relocating. At the same time also know of the perfect place to pull it off. I of course would need aid from anti-piracy groups that are out there as I do realize your avrage mission runner won't particapate. (though if mad enough we might be able to get a few crying in local and what not to join a fleet and take the bait for us)

Seems you missed the big talk of the week in CnP.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=31172&find=unread

we are coming to you.

I am a carebear pvper and i really love threads like this. Players like you are the reason why i still play this game. Out of curiosity who is your main because i want to try your marvelous tarp.

Please do this.

A lot, it would be hysterical.

And by the way, who are all these Mission Bear gankers who claimed to be L33t PVPers? Certainly no one in TEARS. We're bad at this game OP so by all means, start shootin'.

Because they're literally pinatas?

Who routinely fits deadspace and officer mods on subcaps? Mission runners. Kill their ships, loot their expensive mods, sell them to other mission runners for others to gank.