Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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I dont think it needs to be that complicated, just let people move them around with the same 25% loss that currently exists for concord lps, between corps that are friendly too each other ofc!

This would possibly normalise the conversion rates between lp stores a little bit, which may or may not be a good thing depending on your pov

There is a standing table in place for this, it's not ad-hoc:
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standing#Standing_Relationships

I am sorry, but I fail to see your point.
My proposition is to allow LP transfer (not sell/buy but i guess this is just semantics) between corps belonging to Factions who are not hostile to each other. The type of corporation (Security, Distribution, Mining, R&D) plays no role.

Concord is there only to facilitate the exchange (think of a broker company in a stock exchange) of LPs. Concord has no standing to any of the Empire Factions.

Let me propose an example for you:
You spend some time running lvl4's for Quafe Company and you accumulate around 300k LPs. You then change space and start running missions for Brutor Tribe. You realize the Tempest is amazing and you suddenly want a T2 Tempest, the mighty Vargur. But you are still about 200k LPs shy of getting it from Brutor Tribe's LP Store. You don't really fancy anything from Quafe Company's LP store and decide to trasfer your Quafe LP to your Brutor Tribe LP pool. You would be able to do this, because Gallente Federation and Minmatar Republic are friendly to each other.

You ring up Concord and say 'Hey guys, I'd like you to facilitate LP transfer from A to B for me, please.'
Concord checks if the source and destination LP stores FACTIONS are in good standing with each other and if they are, Concord checks if the requested amount of LPs to transfer meets the minimal requirement (1000LPs for example) and after that Concord sets up the transaction, deducting a 'fee' in the from of LPs (counting in your skill level and the actual inter-FACTION standing of those two Corporations).

If you'd want to transfer your Quafe Company to (for example) Caldari Business Tribunal, you couldn't. Because Gallente and Caldari don't see eye-to-eye.

Why constrain this, you ask? To prevent complete anarchy. And to maintain some status quo in line with the EVE lore.

Bumpity-bumpity.

I'm sure some few of us have LP lying about from corps we mission'ed for as newbs that aren't being, and probably won't ever be used.

Wouldn't transferable loyalty points completely defeat the point?

I mean, they're LOYALTY points. They're supposed to reward loyalty to a particular NPC corporation's agents. Transferring them between corporations basically rewards disloyalty, whether you lose some LP in the transfer or not.

Why aren't loyalty points faction based anyway?

I mean, I do understand that you're building standings with specific corps, but all the corps sell the same LP items which are all faction based items.

So essentially they're rewarding you with FACTION LP to buy FACTION items that are available EVERYWHERE.

So why not just make loyalty points faction based instead of corpate based.

After all, they are being used to buy faction supplied items anyway.

I've asked myself whether I would have let this thread die by starvation or post a comment, I've decided for the latter.

In two words: Bad idea.

In more words: One cannot buy loyalty. One can hire services, but the mercenary would surely leave as soon as there is a better offer. True loyalty (that's what LP is meant to be the measurable amount) can only be earned.

I have to agree with Daedalus here.... a corp gives you 'loyalty' points so you are loyal... and so you buy stuff from them.


This will simply lead to further flavor of the month purchasing or meta gaming to switch LPs around to make the most ISK per LP all the time.

If you want something from a specific corp, then you should have to work with that corp to earn it.

As someone who pays attention to the in game economy and understands the concepts of "choices having consequences", I cannot support this proposal.

All that will happen is that all LP will become equally worthless: you will end up grinding LP with the corporation which allows you the fastest possible accumulation (e.g.: the one that has four L4 security agents in the same 0.5 system) and trade your LP from there to wherever you happen to need it this time around.

LP for that little corporation with only Distribution and Mining agents will lose value: sure, the conversion rate is 80%, but since you can earn LPs at three to six times the rate by doing Security missions, you don't really care.

Ultimately all LP will become worthless.