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[Odyssey 1.1] Heavy Assault Cruisers

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Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#1761 - 2013-07-29 11:05:53 UTC
Well here's a crazy thought - dont think its been posted.

Leave their DPS middling at best and give them bonuses to defence - like oversized mods bonuses. Make them none too threatening but a right bugger to kill. The ships you want to put into an attrition/in your face battle thus earning the tag of "heavy assault".


Caveat: not thought through and literally just popped into my head, I'm sure people will be along shortly to tell me why this is a terrible idea Blink
raawe
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1762 - 2013-07-29 11:09:49 UTC
CCP Rise told us yesterday during AT that he will update this thread today hopefully.
sten mattson
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#1763 - 2013-07-29 11:15:56 UTC
MystLynx wrote:
WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MUNINN?


people dont seem to cry out "WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MALLER/OMEN/NOMEN/NAUGOROR/ZEALOT/ABSOLUTION!!!!!ONEONE!!!ONE!!!" from what i can see.

IMMA FIRING MA LAZAR!!!
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#1764 - 2013-07-29 11:20:49 UTC
sten mattson wrote:
MystLynx wrote:
WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MUNINN?


people dont seem to cry out "WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MALLER/OMEN/NOMEN/NAUGOROR/ZEALOT/ABSOLUTION!!!!!ONEONE!!!ONE!!!" from what i can see.


They appear to be quite balanced anyways. Also, double-LSE and point/mwd would probably dangerously shift the kiting-balance, where slicers/NOmens already dominate.

Sure, let's take some lows and make utility-highs and mids out of it... Suddenly wtf no 6/7 lows...
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1765 - 2013-07-29 11:21:59 UTC  |  Edited by: WarFireV
I won't expect anything too ridiculous, like adding in the ability to use capital weapons, on the HACs. Something like that would be handled, most likely, by a new ship type.

The best thing we can hope for is that they realized the MWD bonus on ALL HACs is kind of pointless and doesn't help at all.

The two best HACs will still be the Zealot and the Ishtar.

The Sac is still garbage.

Deimos is still the Diemost. hell it's even worst now since they TOOK EHP away from the poor dear. Sig bonus will not matter much.

Both the Eagle and Cerb are outclassed by other ships that do what they do, but must better.

Vaga is actually a good ship, it's just that a few other ships do what it does, but better as well. Munin is just meh.
M1k3y Koontz
Speaker for the Dead
Shadow Cartel
#1766 - 2013-07-29 11:45:28 UTC
sten mattson wrote:
MystLynx wrote:
WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MUNINN?


people dont seem to cry out "WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MALLER/OMEN/NOMEN/NAUGOROR/ZEALOT/ABSOLUTION!!!!!ONEONE!!!ONE!!!" from what i can see.


Amarr are armor tankers, Minmatar shield tank.

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
raawe
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1767 - 2013-07-29 12:00:13 UTC
Minnies can tank well with both shield and armor. Muninn cant tank with shield tho :D not with 3 mids
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1768 - 2013-07-29 12:05:59 UTC
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
sten mattson wrote:
MystLynx wrote:
WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MUNINN?


people dont seem to cry out "WHAT 3 MEDS FOR THE MALLER/OMEN/NOMEN/NAUGOROR/ZEALOT/ABSOLUTION!!!!!ONEONE!!!ONE!!!" from what i can see.


Amarr are armor tankers, Minmatar shield tank.



Mines are random tankers.. some of their ships tank shield, others tank with armor, other with speed.. and others tanks with irrelevance...

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1769 - 2013-07-29 12:20:43 UTC
Round two of the HAC changes can be found here

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General Jack Cosmo
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1770 - 2013-10-13 11:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: General Jack Cosmo
I would really like to see a few changes in hac

1- it would be nice to give each one a utility high slot (salvager, imp cloak, tractor beem ect)
it would be nice to a have a utility high slot for my ishtar for my lvl 4 missions i do with it :)

2- sacrilege give a rof/dmg of 5 % to ham's only and 10% velocity to ham's only since it was geared towards ham's and tank!

3- give the vaga tracking bonus or shield resistance bonus instead of shield boosts (not every one uses boosts on a hac)

4- maybe change one of the 10% optimal range on the eagle to either 5% optimal/5% tracking
or 10% to range on one or both of those so you can use rails or blasters?

5- cerbus what about 7.5% to kinetic and 5% to other dmg types?

also maybe a bonus to not just sig radius but effectiveness of micro warp drives!!!!

With lord Xanex by my side I can do anything (Atleast with a smile) !!!!
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#1771 - 2013-10-13 12:27:15 UTC
I do wonder if railgun buff had the effect CCP where hoping for in making the eagle actually used for once..
Vaga should have had its speed nerfed and still should as it takes away the only advantage the stabber had going for it as a viable choice to use over the vaga.. and then there is the cynabal nerf incoming .. the vaga shouldn't be the fastest cruiser considering how much better its tanking is over the other 2 now.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using