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So did CCP move moons to Fountain on purpose, to aid goons again?

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-07-29 04:33:57 UTC
Valida Mitras
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-07-29 04:41:50 UTC
Alright, if you really wanna know the truth about GoonSwarm...

We're a CIA front. Glenn Beck was right. And not only that, CCP is actually an NSA front. That's why they have a total love-hate relationship with us. And the Jita supernode? A test bed for the Illuminati's internet-controlling AI, because all the conspiracy theorists are too busy looking at Area 51 and would never suspect Iceland.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#43 - 2013-07-29 06:42:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
all of this was planned years ago at a bbq

get used to it



I have heard that ...things... happened at that bbq. c/d?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-07-29 06:56:37 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...


It was a predetermined course of events, the goons will bring peace to the universe, but first they must suffer much hatred and injustice from the heretics.

Repent your sins wicked one...

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#45 - 2013-07-29 07:46:35 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
... wheels up the refreshments trolly with a fresh supply of TinFoilHats and hot popcorn by the bag...Roll


What you did there.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2013-07-29 09:14:21 UTC
Yes.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#47 - 2013-07-29 09:21:15 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.

Seems a little deliberate...

Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...


Those moons were always there.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#48 - 2013-07-29 09:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Valida Mitras wrote:
Alright, if you really wanna know the truth about GoonSwarm...

We're a CIA front. Glenn Beck was right. And not only that, CCP is actually an NSA front. That's why they have a total love-hate relationship with us. And the Jita supernode? A test bed for the Illuminati's internet-controlling AI, because all the conspiracy theorists are too busy looking at Area 51 and would never suspect Iceland.

So close… but no. NSA is also just a CCP conspiracy, just like goons. That's why CCP was “founded” in 1997 — once NSA had become a part of mainstream knowledge, there was no longer any point in hiding the mother-ship.

And it's not Jita that is the AI testbed. In fact, all those miners you see around who look like they're botting or multiboxing? Well, let's just say that it turns out AIs have poor imagination for naming, and also a fondness for repetitive and mindless tasks…
JinSanJong
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-07-29 10:18:28 UTC  |  Edited by: JinSanJong
Malcanis wrote:
JinSanJong wrote:
Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.

Seems a little deliberate...

Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...


Those moons were always there.


Apologies I didn't explain myself properly. When CCP made the changes to tech and made neo the new tech, they knew where that would effect most, where all the new expensive moons would now reside.
They would of known when deciding to make that change what would of happened.
That's all I'm saying
I just feel it was deliberate, a little strange goons lost the tech only to suddenly have the best opportunity to regain it.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-07-29 10:56:50 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
I just feel it was deliberate, a little strange goons lost the tech only to suddenly have the best opportunity to regain it.


Deliberate by design, but don't know if it was made specifically for Goons itself (unless CCP is tailoring EvE around whales now).

This is the downside of games like EvE, that still cling onto that EQ mindset of one guild to rule the server concept. The game tailored around such antics makes the game ripe for abuse.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#51 - 2013-07-29 11:17:07 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
JinSanJong wrote:
Its a little strange, that all the tech got nerfed, then they move all the moons to fountain, where we all know there has been tension between test/cfc.

Seems a little deliberate...

Yet again why did CCP move the moons into one region and still not spread them out...


Those moons were always there.


Apologies I didn't explain myself properly. When CCP made the changes to tech and made neo the new tech, they knew where that would effect most, where all the new expensive moons would now reside.
They would of known when deciding to make that change what would of happened.
That's all I'm saying
I just feel it was deliberate, a little strange goons lost the tech only to suddenly have the best opportunity to regain it.
Wow you're delusional. They reshuffled moonvalue to favour R64, of which Fountain has a good number.
CFC desires those moons, yeah, and now that they stand to conquer them all they can sustain their "living high" mentality further. Those moons, however, is not at all the same regional stranglehold that tech was. You won't see CFC establishing a new OTEC after this (Or, if they do, it won't just be CFC).
CCP knew where the R64 moons were. CFC knew it too, within reason. TEST knew it, again within reason.

If you remember back 6 or 8 weeks (I know more than 2-3 days is hard for you, but do try), CFC invaded, and a number of entities reacted and mounted the defenses, and for a while the fights were a stalemate or both wins and losses on all sides. A CFC member I spoke with in the beginning was not so sure they could win, while TEST and N3 talked about crushing the CFC advance before driving them back.
It has not gone that way, and it's unreasonable to think it will now, but the massive CFC advances, successes and victories mostly happened the last 10-14 days, and all decisive military victories have been the last 2 weeks too.

So this outcome was not decided for the first month of conflict, and it was not certain that CFC could even win when going in, but it still begs the most fundamental question that you haven't answered (Because the answer would be that your tinfoil is showing and is bad):
If CCP wanted to take the value out of tech and give it to CFC, why take it out of tech the first time 'round?
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-07-29 11:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Colonel Xaven
It is no secret that CCP tries to drive conflicts with shuffling / adjusting mineral values.

The new most valuable moon goo could have been in the south aswell, it does not matter. Sure, the political landscape does matter though.

We'll see where the new high end moons are located in, let's say, 2 years. Or maybe moon goo is not that important anymore then, who knows...

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-07-29 11:31:20 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
It has not gone that way, and it's unreasonable to think it will now, but the massive CFC advances, successes and victories mostly happened the last 10-14 days, and all decisive military victories have been the last 2 weeks too.

So this outcome was not decided for the first month of conflict, and it was not certain that CFC could even win when going in, but it still begs the most fundamental question that you haven't answered (Because the answer would be that your tinfoil is showing and is bad):
If CCP wanted to take the value out of tech and give it to CFC, why take it out of tech the first time 'round?


It's even funnier in a game so paranoid and delusional that players throw the tinfoil insults around like they're the "normal" folks?

Shocked

Seriously, I do wonder if half the players in this game are mentally ill and just trying to cover their tracks to appear "normal", since even Abnormal Psychology 101 you'd learn, a crazy calling another crazy IS crazy. Idea

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Hemmo Paskiainen
#54 - 2013-07-29 11:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
loool @ ppl still dont realizing ccp = goons = bob

Fountain is a fortress & good space if you know how to defend it well.
Its quet logic to make it the new dev'dekein and continue to squeeze the moongoo

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#55 - 2013-07-29 11:39:27 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
It has not gone that way, and it's unreasonable to think it will now, but the massive CFC advances, successes and victories mostly happened the last 10-14 days, and all decisive military victories have been the last 2 weeks too.

So this outcome was not decided for the first month of conflict, and it was not certain that CFC could even win when going in, but it still begs the most fundamental question that you haven't answered (Because the answer would be that your tinfoil is showing and is bad):
If CCP wanted to take the value out of tech and give it to CFC, why take it out of tech the first time 'round?


It's even funnier in a game so paranoid and delusional that players throw the tinfoil insults around like they're the "normal" folks?

Shocked

Seriously, I do wonder if half the players in this game are mentally ill and just trying to cover their tracks to appear "normal", since even Abnormal Psychology 101 you'd learn, a crazy calling another crazy IS crazy. Idea
Don't worry, I am only slightly mad.
In this case however it was more to point out that if he thinks CCP is favoring GSF / CFC, he also has to assume that CCP did that in one of the more incompetent ways out there - aiding their opponents.
It might be that he thinks that, I don't know yet.

In that case however, the argument would at least be internally consistent.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#56 - 2013-07-29 11:41:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
It has not gone that way, and it's unreasonable to think it will now, but the massive CFC advances, successes and victories mostly happened the last 10-14 days, and all decisive military victories have been the last 2 weeks too.

So this outcome was not decided for the first month of conflict, and it was not certain that CFC could even win when going in, but it still begs the most fundamental question that you haven't answered (Because the answer would be that your tinfoil is showing and is bad):
If CCP wanted to take the value out of tech and give it to CFC, why take it out of tech the first time 'round?


It's even funnier in a game so paranoid and delusional that players throw the tinfoil insults around like they're the "normal" folks?

Shocked

Seriously, I do wonder if half the players in this game are mentally ill and just trying to cover their tracks to appear "normal", since even Abnormal Psychology 101 you'd learn, a crazy calling another crazy IS crazy. Idea
Don't worry, I am only slightly mad.
In this case however it was more to point out that if he thinks CCP is favoring GSF / CFC, he also has to assume that CCP did that in one of the more incompetent ways out there - aiding their opponents.
It might be that he thinks that, I don't know yet.

In that case however, the argument would at least be internally consistent.


THink back of the last 20 major game changes and concider if they favour GSF / CFC (this go's back to MAX 2) , you will see that atleast 15 of them you can answere with a yes...... Coincedence or not? In my eye's a littlebit too

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#57 - 2013-07-29 11:46:13 UTC
Aw crap - I'm all out of tinfoil.

Anyone in this thread have some spare? OP?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#58 - 2013-07-29 11:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Alphea Abbra
Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
THink back of the last 20 major game changes[1] and concider if they favour GSF / CFC (this go's back to MAX 2)[2] , you will see that atleast 15[3] of them you can answere with a yes[4]...... Coincedence or not? In my eye's a littlebit too[5]

sources:
[1] Hemmo Paskiainens rectum
[2] Hemmo Paskiainens rectum
[3] Hemmo Paskiainens rectum
[4] Hemmo Paskiainens rectum
[1] Hemmo Paskiainens own opinion
And even if you're right and didn't just pull these numbers out of there ...
Try making the same numbers up for anyone else playing the sandbox in a way that CCP thinks is cool/gives them subs.

If 15/20 last major game changes favoured active social players in general, then your argument is still worthless.

I like to hate goons and CFC as much as the next N3'er, but these arguments are really shoddy. If I wanted to use your line of thought, I'd have to abandon all attempts at reason just to hate CFC. I would rather want to base my likes and dislikes on stuff that confirms with reality.
No matter of male bovine excrements will make this argument sound.

Please try again!
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#59 - 2013-07-29 11:55:21 UTC
All moon minerals should be randomized every month to discourage bluing all of null. Now that goons have taken all the moons there will be a long era of farming with zero reason to war again. Allowing out posts to be destroyed and its Contents to be looted would be epic for null too.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-07-29 12:02:55 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:
All moon minerals should be randomized every month to discourage bluing all of null. Now that goons have taken all the moons there will be a long era of farming with zero reason to war again. Allowing out posts to be destroyed and its Contents to be looted would be epic for null too.


Are you volunteer to re-scan every single ******* moon every month to learn wich one contain what so you can redo all your setup with reaction and without forgetting every other things currently on tower that might have top be placed elsewhere because the ****** moon's tower you were using for some random thing is now required to mine insetad because it happen to be a R64 at the moment?

Totally super fun time if this happen.