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WOW "suspect" -level = podable in secure space

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Das Aivo
Chemical Redox
#101 - 2013-07-29 10:17:56 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
You decided to be a thief and then winge about it on the forums when people chase the thief legally Big smile *slowclap*


Here in Belgium a citizen went to jail for assaulting a burglar the other day. The burglar said he only meant to steal some **** out of the garage but then again what was he doing in the childrens' bedroom? Didn't matter, the guy still went to jail. Country has gone to **** when the rights of the criminal are more important then the rights of the victim.
Criminals get health insurance through our nice system as well and collect unemployment cheques on top of their less legal job. Our jails are islands of luxury, with swimming pool, TV and internet privileges for the pedophiles. This helps a lot with the internationalization of our criminals ofc, whether they are good at their job or not, life is better in our jails then in their home country.

Lesson is, if you assault a criminal in your home you better make sure you kill him. Corpses can't sue you and they are cheaper to society.

dead men tell no tales
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2013-07-29 10:30:12 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
Carribean Queen wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
You've always been poddable in highsec, being suspect just increases the chance of it happening.


being poddable and everyone having a free pass to pod you are two entirely different things.


Actually, no it's not. Theft, much as in real life, if somebody screams STOP THIEF and you're the one running away like a ****, you think nobody will step in and apply a smack down? Much as in real life, you got smacked the F down. It's much more realistic now.

What dream world do you live in where a thief can be killed by any passerby who happens along?


EVE Online, actually, in case you haven't noticed, it isn't reality, it's a 'dream world'. Additionally, nobody died. You got blown up, and because you're a clone, you are still alive.

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Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2013-07-29 12:26:12 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont


Stealth HS buff.

Personally I'm OK with the change except in how gank wrecks are handled. I personally think the wreck should be white to anyone in the gank fleet and the original ship owner's corp but yellow to others. You already lose ships to perform a gank. I'm not sure how the suspect flag works for people who are at war. If it's yellow to the killers, that's also a bad thing (IMO).

It's all about CCP trying to satisfy the complaints from dedicated carebears. What they don't seem to realize is they'll never be able to satisfy that crowd.
Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2013-07-29 13:46:22 UTC
Manfred Hideous wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont


Stealth HS buff.

Personally I'm OK with the change except in how gank wrecks are handled. I personally think the wreck should be white to anyone in the gank fleet and the original ship owner's corp but yellow to others. You already lose ships to perform a gank. I'm not sure how the suspect flag works for people who are at war. If it's yellow to the killers, that's also a bad thing (IMO).

It's all about CCP trying to satisfy the complaints from dedicated carebears. What they don't seem to realize is they'll never be able to satisfy that crowd.


So, I walk into someones house and shoot them in the head (gank). Police come and deal with me (CONCORD). You feel that the rest of your street gang should be able to come loot my house clean because the police arrested you?

Glad I don't live in your community!
Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#105 - 2013-07-29 14:04:27 UTC
Scarlett LaBlanc wrote:
Manfred Hideous wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont


Stealth HS buff.

Personally I'm OK with the change except in how gank wrecks are handled. I personally think the wreck should be white to anyone in the gank fleet and the original ship owner's corp but yellow to others. You already lose ships to perform a gank. I'm not sure how the suspect flag works for people who are at war. If it's yellow to the killers, that's also a bad thing (IMO).

It's all about CCP trying to satisfy the complaints from dedicated carebears. What they don't seem to realize is they'll never be able to satisfy that crowd.


So, I walk into someones house and shoot them in the head (gank). Police come and deal with me (CONCORD). You feel that the rest of your street gang should be able to come loot my house clean because the police arrested you?

Glad I don't live in your community!


I also equate playing a video game with real life, wut?

You left out the part where I said I'm mostly OK with the changes. I do think that if you're able to gank a freighter, you should be able to reap the rewards.
Jorden Ishonen
Doomheim
#106 - 2013-07-29 14:20:28 UTC
Scarlett LaBlanc wrote:
Manfred Hideous wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont


Stealth HS buff.

Personally I'm OK with the change except in how gank wrecks are handled. I personally think the wreck should be white to anyone in the gank fleet and the original ship owner's corp but yellow to others. You already lose ships to perform a gank. I'm not sure how the suspect flag works for people who are at war. If it's yellow to the killers, that's also a bad thing (IMO).

It's all about CCP trying to satisfy the complaints from dedicated carebears. What they don't seem to realize is they'll never be able to satisfy that crowd.


So, I walk into someones house and shoot them in the head (gank). Police come and deal with me (CONCORD). You feel that the rest of your street gang should be able to come loot my house clean because the police arrested you?

Glad I don't live in your community!


EVE is real, I was there.

Still am, by the way. Check under your bed.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#107 - 2013-07-29 18:46:19 UTC
A lot of jerks in here do not even deserve to live in a democratic country as they know nothing (John Snow) about why even criminals have rights. It makes me sick to see people calling for totalitarian systems...

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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#108 - 2013-07-29 22:47:41 UTC
That warning box that pops up...you may want to read it

No good deed goes unpunished
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#109 - 2013-07-29 22:50:10 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.




Griefing has consequences now.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#110 - 2013-07-30 00:55:58 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont




I believe a tip of the day pops up when you log it doesn't it? It is best to over look the new changes to eve. There are many youtubers who cover eve and the changes that come with new content. Its not hard to know what is new in eve. You just learned the very hard way.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#111 - 2013-07-30 01:31:44 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.


Stealing is bad, mmmmmkay?

When you've learned how to get away with it, or at least suck it up vis a vis the potential consequences, then you'll have a whole lot more fun. Extreme fun, even. Blink



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Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#112 - 2013-07-30 09:51:49 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.




Griefing has consequences now.


Ganking has always had consequences. Performing criminal actions on unsuspecting players is not griefing in this game.
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2013-07-30 10:53:10 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
You decided to be a thief and then winge about it on the forums when people chase the thief legally Big smile *slowclap*


Here in Belgium... if you assault a criminal in your home you better make sure you kill him. Corpses can't sue you and they are cheaper to society.


WOW what the hell happened to Belgium? Used to be the people who acted like they had life sorted out, now like every other desperate tool they spend IQ points worrying about who's gonna take stuff off em.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#114 - 2013-07-30 11:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Radius Prime wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
You decided to be a thief and then winge about it on the forums when people chase the thief legally Big smile *slowclap*


Here in Belgium... if you assault a criminal in your home you better make sure you kill him. Corpses can't sue you and they are cheaper to society.


WOW what the hell happened to Belgium? Used to be the people who acted like they had life sorted out, now like every other desperate tool they spend IQ points worrying about who's gonna take stuff off em.



European Court of Human Rights, making crime pay since its inception. Here in the UK it's taken years to deport some undesirables that are wanted on terrorism charges elsewhere, because they might get tortured or otherwise mistreated.

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Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2013-07-30 12:01:32 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Radius Prime wrote:
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
You decided to be a thief and then winge about it on the forums when people chase the thief legally Big smile *slowclap*


Here in Belgium... if you assault a criminal in your home you better make sure you kill him. Corpses can't sue you and they are cheaper to society.


WOW what the hell happened to Belgium? Used to be the people who acted like they had life sorted out, now like every other desperate tool they spend IQ points worrying about who's gonna take stuff off em.



European Court of Human Rights, making crime pay since it's inception. Here in the UK it's taken years to deport some undesirables that are wanted on terrorism charges esle where, because they might get tortured or otherwise mistreated.


If only you guys had Concord or suspect flags. :)