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Delete/Un-inject skills
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#1 - 2013-07-28 19:27:25 UTC
I would like an option to be able to un-inject skills that you haven't trained or delete skills you have trained altogether. I wasn't always a bitter vet and back when I was a noob I trained everything I could regardless of how useful it was since i didn't know the game. 70million sp later I know this game enough that I'll never go back to mining. I want to remove those 20million sp's so that:

1. My skill sheet is less cluttered and looks nicer cause I'm anal like that.
2. My clone would cost much cheaper (I like my thrashers and it blows when your EMPTY pod is worth twice as much as the ship your flying)
3. I could un-inject all those stupid skills i decided to inject on my alts and will never train. They're just cluttering my skill sheet up and making my characters look less attractive if I ever decide to sell.

Down to the meat of the idea. There would be an option when you right click a skill on in your character sheet/skill que to delete it. If its level 0 and not trained at all you can un-inject it. Both these options are destructive you get nothing back! Obviously there would be a 'Are you sure you wanna do this?' box thats pops up and explains what will happen.

-You will not receive unallocated skill points to redistribute.
-You will not get back the skill book if you un-inject.

Maybe theres a way to do this through petition idk I'll check. Not sure how many people are crazy like me and would delete chunks of there hard earned SP Twisted

Discuss!

Blue-Fire Best Fire
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#2 - 2013-07-28 20:18:31 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
I would like an option to be able to un-inject skills that you haven't trained or delete skills you have trained altogether. I wasn't always a bitter vet and back when I was a noob I trained everything I could regardless of how useful it was since i didn't know the game. 70million sp later I know this game enough that I'll never go back to mining. I want to remove those 20million sp's so that:

1. My skill sheet is less cluttered and looks nicer cause I'm anal like that.
2. My clone would cost much cheaper (I like my thrashers and it blows when your EMPTY pod is worth twice as much as the ship your flying)
3. I could un-inject all those stupid skills i decided to inject on my alts and will never train. They're just cluttering my skill sheet up and making my characters look less attractive if I ever decide to sell.

Down to the meat of the idea. There would be an option when you right click a skill on in your character sheet/skill que to delete it. If its level 0 and not trained at all you can un-inject it. Both these options are destructive you get nothing back! Obviously there would be a 'Are you sure you wanna do this?' box thats pops up and explains what will happen.

-You will not receive unallocated skill points to redistribute.
-You will not get back the skill book if you un-inject.

Maybe theres a way to do this through petition idk I'll check. Not sure how many people are crazy like me and would delete chunks of there hard earned SP Twisted

Discuss!

Agreed.

The only benefits will be, as you stated, a cosmetic cleaning up of skills you do not use or value.
A cheaper clone, if you had a significant enough reduction in skill points from this.

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Jureth22
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-28 21:04:00 UTC
+ 1.why wouldnt be able to have this?except when a acc is gonna get hacked and stripped of skill points/assets
Omega Flames
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-28 21:37:42 UTC
completely useless idea posing as yet another "i want my skill points back" thread
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2013-07-29 00:41:11 UTC
Omega Flames wrote:
completely useless idea posing as yet another "i want my skill points back" thread


Actually no, he does not !

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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#6 - 2013-07-29 03:12:37 UTC
Yay another pointless request. Don't waste Dev time on this request CCP, there are much better things to spend their time on.
Lakitel
4.20ly Mining Range
#7 - 2013-07-29 04:44:53 UTC
While similar suggestions have been made before I actually think the SP issue is a good one. Having an extra 20mil SP can significantly increase the price of a clone, and there's no reason that this price should be there if the person isn't using those skills anymore.

As long as you don't get any skill-points back, I think its fair to say that you don't want your high SP to effect the cost of your clone.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#8 - 2013-07-29 07:59:48 UTC
But in most cased, you have 'used' and benefited from those skills at some point.

Sorry, But I vote no.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#9 - 2013-07-29 08:28:37 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
But in most cased, you have 'used' and benefited from those skills at some point.

Sorry, But I vote no.


Thats great. I believe people should be able to make there own choice with what skills they have in training them up or removing skills if they wish. Theres no change to any one else as you don't get skill points or books back. Its purely personal and of course should be low priority for the devs.

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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-29 08:36:20 UTC
No. Like already said you have used those skills at some point.

Btw, why there's so many peoples with OCD?
Anariasis
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#11 - 2013-07-29 12:25:10 UTC
That's just going to end with millions of petitions "omg I accidentally deleted ....".
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-07-29 12:33:51 UTC
Glad others are thinking like me.

+1 vote

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Reizak StormFury
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-29 12:48:29 UTC
Anariasis wrote:
That's just going to end with millions of petitions "omg I accidentally deleted ....".


I think millions is a little strong. I'm sure CCP don't get many petitions to un-bio characters. I think this would work in exactly the same way.


I'm on the fence about this. I don't really get the argument for having used the skills in the past...

Yes, you bought the skill book(s).
Yes, you used the skill(s) to achieve something you wanted to do.
Yes, you might have no need/wish to ever use those skills again.

I'd look upon this as a "forget" command. People do forget stuff after all.


I'm on the fence though as I'm unsure on the impact this would have. From what I've seen, EVE needs more ISK sinks, and clones (as well as their implants), seem to be the only consistent sinks in the game.


For the EVE OCD that everyone seems to suffer from a smidge (I'm also guilty of this to some extent), a very simple "show/hide" system would be great. It already exists for maxed skills, but players aren't able to show/hide individual skills at will.

Shouldn't be too difficult/time consuming to implement. An extra field in the database table for a boolean value. When populating the listbox, check to see if that fields value equates to TRUE or FALSE. Simple enough.


TL;DR:
+1 for a show/hide on individual skills at a players discretion.
+/-1 for forgetting skills.
Balthazar Lestrane
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#14 - 2013-07-29 12:58:50 UTC
Reizak StormFury wrote:
Anariasis wrote:
That's just going to end with millions of petitions "omg I accidentally deleted ....".


I think millions is a little strong. I'm sure CCP don't get many petitions to un-bio characters. I think this would work in exactly the same way.


I'm on the fence about this. I don't really get the argument for having used the skills in the past...

Yes, you bought the skill book(s).
Yes, you used the skill(s) to achieve something you wanted to do.
Yes, you might have no need/wish to ever use those skills again.

I'd look upon this as a "forget" command. People do forget stuff after all.


I'm on the fence though as I'm unsure on the impact this would have. From what I've seen, EVE needs more ISK sinks, and clones (as well as their implants), seem to be the only consistent sinks in the game.


For the EVE OCD that everyone seems to suffer from a smidge (I'm also guilty of this to some extent), a very simple "show/hide" system would be great. It already exists for maxed skills, but players aren't able to show/hide individual skills at will.

Shouldn't be too difficult/time consuming to implement. An extra field in the database table for a boolean value. When populating the listbox, check to see if that fields value equates to TRUE or FALSE. Simple enough.


TL;DR:
+1 for a show/hide on individual skills at a players discretion.
+/-1 for forgetting skills.


This. Making changes for purely cosmetics is a waste of dev time when it does nothing to further actual gameplay. Something simple as "Hide Skill From Character Sheet" would be much more appropriate.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#15 - 2013-07-29 13:59:02 UTC
I think it's a great idea.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Eddy -Stylez
#16 - 2013-07-29 16:50:52 UTC
+1

Free skill removal should of been a standard feature long ago.

or even better...

How about an option to HIDE skills? :)
Mag's
Azn Empire
#17 - 2013-07-29 17:27:28 UTC
I'm actually fine with skill removal, but believe you should have to un-train the skill to remove it. You would also not gain the SP back, or the skill book.

Not only does this route add some protection from the OMG I deleted a skill brigade, but also adds another consequence to your action.

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#18 - 2013-07-29 17:31:20 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I'm actually fine with skill removal, but believe you should have to un-train the skill to remove it. You would also not gain the SP back, or the skill book.

Not only does this route add some protection from the OMG I deleted a skill brigade, but also adds another consequence to your action.

I would allow the untraining to happen faster, since it is normally possible to destroy much faster than it is to create.

The technological equivalent of a very specific lobotomy, which still takes time in order to be precise and not leave you drooling and unable to function.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#19 - 2013-07-29 17:32:40 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I'm actually fine with skill removal, but believe you should have to un-train the skill to remove it. You would also not gain the SP back, or the skill book.

Not only does this route add some protection from the OMG I deleted a skill brigade, but also adds another consequence to your action.

I would allow the untraining to happen faster, since it is normally possible to destroy much faster than it is to create.

The technological equivalent of a very specific lobotomy, which still takes time in order to be precise and not leave you drooling and unable to function.
Sounds fair. Maybe at double the speed, as we still need a consequence and idiot barrier.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#20 - 2013-07-29 17:38:26 UTC
This suggestion is for a purely cosmetic reason, so why have it actually change your skillset? Just add a "Hide" option to the character sheet, and some option to show hidden skills.
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