Missions & Complexes

Things that make ISBoxer harder are certainly relevant to ISBoxer.

CCP's financial interests and how ISBoxers effect them are presumably relevant to their stance on ISBoxer.

I have no idea what you're on about really. Perhaps take two seconds to read the context and alleviate your confusion.

For arguments sake let’s say EVE is a traditional game and the goal in that game is to acquire the most ISK, as all games are a contrivance to pit one person’s intellect against another’s then ISBoxers is cheating by using technology to bend the rules.
The flip side could be the EVE is a puzzle not a game and the goal is to solve the puzzle, in which case ISBoxer is simply an ingenious way to accelerate getting a solution through technology.

Regardless of AI improvements ISBoxer is still relevant as even the most Hardy changes to the current AI can be overcome with ‘More’; More firepower, More hackers, More logistics, More scouts. But is it really playing the game if you ignore the built in obstacles (AI) and just hammer your way to the finish line in a sports car even though everyone else has chose to use a bike (Tour de France reference).

Ideally it doesn’t matter as the standard player knows they aren’t losing to anyone in a Sandbox (New definition of Game without specific goals). But as CCP has reduced certain resources to implement content then the ISBoxer issue becomes more relevant as the resources you are now trying to acquire can be impossible to attain when competing as one character, against one man (Or woman) running 20 characters. Even the most mentally secure player will question the ‘fairness’ when they can’t even begin to compete for resources on what was supposed to be a Level playing field.

The degeneration of this thread to a conversation about economics does nothing for the conversation on ISBoxers. PLEX is an ingenious way to distribute in game currency to players that don’t have time to amass the mountains of wealth needed to do the things they enjoy doing in the game. If you simplify PLEX to Credit for game play, then the whole conversation solves itself, everyone uses PLEX to play the game, some purchase PLEX from EVE market, others purchase PLEX from the Internet market and subscribers pay for PLEX directly to CCP who then immediately turns it into game time; CCP makes their money on all accounts regardless. Yes PLEX promotes ISBoxer, if this mechanic didn’t exist then there would be few people willing to spend $300, £200 or whatever your currency is to ‘Play’ what is essentially a second job, but without PLEX many EVE players would not play at all.

So it boils down to Solution or Problem, is ISBoxer the solution for EVE-Online, and all anyone has to do to ‘Win’ is get 20 accounts and a simple program, or is it the Problem and needs to be banned so the obstacles are equally challenging for everyone. I would say EVE’s current predilection for Blob warfare would support ISBoxer as the solution, but the standard game definition negates that; if you’re doing something that much different than everyone else, then you’re playing a different game.

So we are clear, I am not confused by anything other than your inability to address the topic as it is relevant to the OP, and not just a dissemination of others posts.

Carry on.

Certainly, but that need not be the case forever.



FFS, the point is that you can't; it's more complicated than that. If you think that CCP (a superorganism whose primary motivation is making money) hasn't thought about the more subtle factors, you're kidding yourself.



You just described how every aforementioned line of discussion was directly relevant to the topic; disagreeing with a point doesn't make it off-topic, nor is anyone obligated to only respond in a superficial manner to the OP's question. You still seem confused, maybe obstinate?

EVE is having a real jealousy culture as of late. People are jealous of people such as you and I regardless of the good effect we have on the economy and providing content for lots of other players. They just see someone with something they don't have, they have no idea how to get it themselves because they are dumb, so they cry and whine instead.

What conspiracy? These are well understood behavioral concepts. Perhaps read some journals while you aren't stuck teaching high schoolers how to 5-paragraph essay.



You're oversimplifying again. "Making money" has a lot of nuances. Sacrificing a large portion of your staff (part of the organism mind you) to make a risky play at maximizing profit over income is generally a bad idea. CCP in particular has maintained their market niche (very similar to an evolutionary niche) for over a decade. Unless their continued existence is threatened, making radical changes would be silly.



What are you basing this on exactly? Most service based companies are committed to maintaining their product and adding features (regardless of whether they call them expansions). Most service based companies offer different payment models. Every large company hosts annual conferences. Every large company takes customer input into consideration.



Take away CCP's money and they'd crumble like any other company. You seem to be fixated on the demonized Wall Street concept which is obviously not appropriate.

You're butt hurt over a "business studies" crack after calling me a conspiracy nut? Ah well, for all your credential flaunting you added nothing to the conversation.

If you insist.



I'd love to hear any of the deeper understanding you keep claiming to have, but "hurrr durr, buying PLEX in game is exactly the same as giving CCP money" and "derp, CCP doesn't care about monies" are pretty incorrect and boring.

Oh goodie, I haven't heard this one before.

What is ISBoxer and how can I get one?

The price of plex falls, more people plex second characters or whatever, some small percent of the original purchasers of the plexes don't buy plexes because they see the isk price as too low - ie your actual economic influence on CCP is fractional on what you might believe it is.