EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

Except they never did apply them to missiles, they said they would and then they didn't.

come on how blind are you people!! 80km medium blasters tracking is what the Domi's gardes are doing this is clearly OP

What?

Anyone facing you scrubs would be sure to ban the domi as it seems to be the only ships you can actually force a win with.

Then again, you were annihilated by No Holes Barred with one of your own set ups...

You then managed to drag back a win by copying the majority of good alliances and their set ups to beat the WORST team in the tourney

Perhaps the next team you come up against doesnt need to ban the domi so much as ban your FC's and team management



ps [edit]: Based on the fact that the second worst team in the tourney [Heretic Initiative] can pull out a win using someone elses domi set up, I suggest its definitely OP in tourney environment and everyone should chuck in a ban so we can see some real fights with good piloting and strategies.

Dominix Tinker and why it's good:

Firstly let's talk about what makes a domi comp perform so well. With the sentry drone tracking speed and optimal range bonuses you end up with very good range, and the ability to track frigate hulls out to about 100km. This is important because it allows you focus any of the enemy ships on the field at the very start of the match. You pair this with target painters and you have a very strong combination with very little counter play(damps, ecm, tds etc).

There are very few weaknesses of this comp. The largest is that it doesn't provide godlike dps. Without actually looking up the numbers you're sitting around 2100 dps out of three domis. There are many variations of the setup, but the core is generally three Dominix and a logi. You can suit the support/secondary ships to flavor, and what you feel that you need. This can include tackle(punishers etc), ewar(maulus), damage(vexor/thorax have been popular choices).

Now let's talk about what a "Tinker" is. A tinker is essentially a composition that relies on cap transfers (which create cap out of thin air) to keep strong local tanks running, and also provide cap to the logistics ship. Generally speaking they're fairly immobile, but that isn't always the case. PLs tinker today had(if memory serves) 3x shield dominix, vulture, tengu, secondary ships. You have all of the dominix and the vulture cap transferring to the tengu (which is the logistics in this case). The Tengu is fit with a massive self tank, and your normal compliment of rr in the highs. The x-l asb that the tengu packs is NOT cap stable without the cap transfers, but with them it allows it to continue to operate after it's run out of cap charges, effectively allowing it to permatank anywhere from 4-6k dps.

The shield tinker is effective for a few reasons. Firstly is that the enemy setup no longer has the option of just agressing drones on the logi and taking it out. Since we know that a 3x domi setup will have roughly 2100 base dps before support is added in the Tengu is allowed to survive the early onslaught. Another HUGE factor is in taking little victories. Namely, removing enemy frigates before armor reps have a chance to land. The reason it's different on a shield logi is that shield reps send out the shield at the beginning of the cycle, whereas armor reps send out the armor at the end of the cycle. This means that reaction times aren't as important and you have more leeway. Lastly is that the Tech 3 based logistics, while they have much shorter rep range, rep a much larger amount. Your overall active tank is much higher with a tengu than it is with an Onieros, for example.

There are some more technical and fitting specific things that I could go in to, but they don't really apply to someone that's just trying to understand the concept of the comp.