EVE General Discussion

Ahhh yes, the woes of the rich what's next you going to start screaming the rent is too damn high

I have been in Test alliance please ignore and in leadership of what was the "Fountain coalition" as well as having characters within Dreddit and a handful of other Test alliance please ignore corporations as well as Tribal band. Not to mention within the "cluster fu*k Collation and Nulli Secunda. @ the height of these shenanigans I had 23 characters with various alliances in the west and south west.

The emperor never had any clothes to begin with. For example: Montilio always came off as passive aggressive with little to no insight or prospective on how to run an alliance. He mainly tried to copy Goonswarm Federation and to be honest they were able to do so to a certain extent. When it came to all the extras like forums, AUTH systems, diplomats and logistics. Basically a bureaucracy that was VERY SIZEABLE. What was left out was the most important in terms of sovereignty warfare. Test alliance please ignore has and continues to lack experienced strategic level fleet commanders or even ONE. Which meant they lacked significantly military. Which never really matted because they always had Goonswarm Federation to help with that area. Now, Test wasn't the only alliance who had and still does have this issue. There are many alliances within the cluster fu*k coalition who seaside military matters to Goonswarm on the strategic level. But! Even on the tactical level and in terms of understanding the current META dynamics of warfare within Eve Online or developing new innovative tactics and strategies or truly understanding them. Test NEVER had a fleet commander THAT capable. I mean you don't even need many of them JUST ONE. Look at nulli secunda and Progodlegend who's not really even that good or Elo Knight who is that good or Lacco who is that good or MAK who is that good (-A-). Many of these fleet commanders have no life and spend most of thier time in game.

Test alliance please ignore under Montilio NEVER spent significant time focusing on developing a serious and large team of fleet commanders. He and most in Test leadership always relied on their size, diplomacy and Goonswarm federation to handle everything else. Basically Montilio focused on building a bureaucracy to manage Test alliance please ignore. While ignoring the overall point of building the bureaucracy. To help fund and equip a large military force for defence and offensive purposes. Lead by competent commanders.

Instead they focused on things like Propaganda? Goonswarm and the Cluster fu*k coalition wins because they win WARS. You don't win wars with incompetent fleet commanders and pilots. Propaganda is an internal motivator not an external one. You use spies and diplomacy to flip directors or help bolster internal discord. A member placed in an alliance who constantly questions leadership and points out mistakes ALOT can do wonders in undermining any effort and hurting overall moral of that entity.

However, Test alliance is not doing anything like that. Making pictures and spamming them in local is amusing but that does not win wars. When you have a military director asking people to focus on Propaganda images instead of focusing on gaining more experience and learning from your mistakes. Just shows a serious disconnect or lack of experience PERIOD.

One of the worst and great thing about test alliance please ignore is its culture. By that I mean whelping is something they strive to do and it can be fun as well as getting into funny situations. Now Test alliance has always had a ship replacement program which helped them continue this practice in times of relative peace indefinitely. However, the downside of this culture tom foolery is that members did not learn from their mistakes or strived to improve themselves. This actually scaled to leadership. Now its ok for regular members to think and act this was as long as they can follow orders. But! Leadership cannot maintain that level of incompetence and hope that their entity would survive. Goonswarm members are alot like test in that they whelp often but the real difference there is that the LEADERSHIP is not incompetent. Goonswarms leadership is very competent and good. I'm referring to what has been allowing the cluster fu*k coalition to WIN. Their fleet commanders.

Something I did not like while I was in fountain back when BDEAL just fail cascaded. There's a serious effort not to innovate within Test culture. For example; when I suggested that you may want to improve your Rifter setup and here are some tactics and strategies to help you win an engagement instead of whelping. The first response I got was "No" the whole point is to whelp. How about you switch from rifters to merlins which would provide alot more staying power and scale to your engagements? "NO" RIFTA or GTFO. I tried to make the point that whelping is an outcome that happens even with the best of pilots and fleet commanders but going out entirely for that purpose makes no sense to me. I can understand that if you're an entity that fools around on the weekends in low or high sec, but null is serious biz. If you are in null you are playing in serious mode. So how is focusing on whlping going to help your members and fleet commanders improve? "shoulder shrug".

i don't think 'clusterfuck' is censored, actually

Meh, I might bomb by.

Wow lookit waffles with the 100% realtalk

gl and hf guys stay frosty

i'll make sure to watch that on mad-ani stream :)

So you think...

Better than the server crashing, if you ever got blackscreened pre-TiDi this is a lot better