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A universal peace

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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#1 - 2011-11-10 15:51:49 UTC
Some people are waiting for another Adhrit Vaakpati or that special somebody to show up. What if there isn’t anybody. This is our time. What if it’s up to us?

Consider this, an almost unthinkable scenario: A universe without violence. A universe without terror, without threats, without wounds from intentional actions.

Where the strong provide for the vulnerable, where the vulnerable become empowered, where every kind of family is safe and secure, and girls and boys and women and men have a fair and equal chance at the pursuit of happiness in a tolerant and talented society.

A universe without violence. Peace.

We can’t even imagine it. — The very thought eludes our grasp.

Why is that?

Is it our cynicism, a failure of our imagination, burn-out-disappointment seeing too much reality, gang killings, stalking, ganks, battering, child abuse, too many wars, or is it fear of failure, that we may not be able to be successful in achieving violence free-relationships, peaceful families and empowered communities — are we so afraid to even dare to imagine it and thus unable to even dream it?

I don’t have the answer.

But I know that Vision is the ability to see the Invisible.

To see beyond the violence and yet to place our selves in front of it — so we can take compassionate action and create peace — that’s my definition of courage.

We are surrounded by violence everyday. We see it, feel it, witness it or read and hear about it. Of course there’s also the heartbreaking violence of nature — hurricanes and earthquakes — but I am talking about intentional violence. The capacity for violence is within us. Just as the capacity for peace is within us. As humans we are perched on the precipice of violence almost every moment — we have that capability — including all of us — some reptilian part of our brains could at any moment defend us against a real or perceived threat. There is an alligator in all of us.

Each moment that we refrain from hurting another being by our speech, gesture, glance or deeds — we are exercising courage. Often, thank goodness, we are successful and in those quietly courageous moments — we are making peace.

My favorite definition of peace: PEACE “it does not mean to be in a place where there is no noise, conflict, trouble or hard work. It means to be in the midst of those things and still BE CALM IN YOUR HEART.”

VIOLENCE PREVENTION and PEACEMAKING is very messy, often uncomfortable, sometimes confrontational. Violence prevention is not peaceful work but it is the working toward peace. Advocating for social justice, equality, empowerment, institutional and attitudinal change, has brought many arguments, conflicts, unease — it has given me a lot of inner turmoil. The peace I feel in my heart comes from knowing that I am doing what I am supposed to be doing.

In December, the ILF will be 5 years old — big birthday — and I am taking a deep look at who we have become and who we want to be. We’ve changed most by being inclusive — by adding, not subtracting. We started with a focus on Intaki, then to the area of the Intaki Sovereignty, and perhaps now to an even larger area of colonies.

Over the years the ILF has practiced one of the most important kinds of courage–the courage to change. After all, we are an organization of social change makers. We have the most amazing staff — dedicated, knowledgeable — they work for more than a paycheck, Our volunteers do more than contribute their free time — they are servants for their community.

And please remember the vision thing. Dare to make the invisible visible. Healthy relationships, peaceful families, empowered communities deserve the best of our imagination, and our never-ending commitment to make it happen. It is up to us.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#2 - 2011-11-10 16:16:56 UTC
Saxon Hawke wrote:
A universe without violence. Peace.

We can’t even imagine it. — The very thought eludes our grasp.


This is incorrect. Some of us have dared to dream.
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#3 - 2011-11-10 16:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ston Momaki
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Saxon Hawke wrote:
A universe without violence. Peace.

We can’t even imagine it. — The very thought eludes our grasp.


This is incorrect. Some of us have dared to dream.


Let us not just dream, let us act. Let us act every day in accord with our dream for peace. Let us act in non-violent ways that foster peace. Let us act to free those in bonds of slavery. Let us act to promote brotherhood among all races. Let us act! Those who dream of violence have no problem acting it out. Those who dream of peace must find ways to act in peaceful ways.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Khazarn Areth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-11-10 16:32:53 UTC
An interesting theory, but you have to consider that some people, myself included, want nothing more than to see your worlds, your empires and your people burn.

Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
SE7EN-SINS
#5 - 2011-11-10 16:36:28 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This is incorrect. Some of us have dared to dream.


I would rather have an eternity of violence and uncertainty than a single second of the "peace" Sansha's Nation offers.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#6 - 2011-11-10 16:46:20 UTC
I can imagine Universal Peace. Unfortunately, it involves the heat death of the universe, which isn't exactly conducive to life. Life itself isn't conducive to peace.

I love the term 'Violence Prevention' by the way. Such wonderful doublespeak. How do you prevent someone from being violent, without being violent yourself? Yes, you could try to persuade them, but I suspect that might lead to violence being done to you. People aren't reasonable. A person may be, but working on averages, people aren't.

As the saying goes:
I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it.


It's a nice idea. But impractical. Individuals lead to conflict. Violence is just the ultimate expression of that conflict. It's unavoidable, without utterly destroying the individual.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#7 - 2011-11-10 17:23:04 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This is incorrect. Some of us have dared to dream.


I would rather have an eternity of violence and uncertainty than a single second of the "peace" Sansha's Nation offers.


That sounds like your problem.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#8 - 2011-11-10 19:27:03 UTC
I don't want to offend you Mr. Hawke, but those are just empty words. No one found yet a solution for peace in New Eden. Sansha Loyalist would say the Nation is the solution. Someone else could say elimination of every human being would bring peace…

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#9 - 2011-11-10 19:55:43 UTC
Individuals each choosing to act peacefully is the solution. As an individual, I can't for the next guy, or next government, or next corporation, or next alliance to act for peace. I must act for peace. The individual must make individual choices to restrain his or her acts of violence. That is where it begins.

SANKOFA

Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#10 - 2011-11-10 20:03:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Sadik
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
That sounds like your problem.
No... no, I don't think so.

Every single empire thinks they have the solution for galactic paradise. The Federation thinks that just if everyone would be allowed to develop as an individual, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The Empire thinks that just if everyone would be believing in their God, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The State thinks that if we would just have everyone compete, live and die on our own personal merits, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. And Nation thinks that if we all just stop thinking on our own, we'll live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream.

Congratulations. From a philosopher and a person with a vision for peace, you have turned into a person no better than any other war monger out there. But I'm sure you believe that you happen to be right. Something surely no one else thinks.


Regarding the topic of this thread: Peace at any cost is not paradise. Peace at any cost means subjecting yourself to those who do not believe in peace at any cost.

Now, peace that everyone can agree to. That would be a dream come true. But I fear it might be about as possible as finding music that everyone likes.

So yes, I'd agree: I can't imagine such a peace. Sad as it is.
Half Cocked Jack
Un4seen Development
Sev3rance
#11 - 2011-11-10 20:12:04 UTC
Peace is a manmade invention--and as unnatural an invention as man has ever made. The very laws of nature and physics scream out against it. A state of absolute peace is a state where nothing is in motion, and state where nothing is in motion is a state where nothing exists. You can seek peace for yourself and try to live a tranquil life in which you do no harm--that is fit and proper. But to seek to impose it on everyone else just makes you another instigator of the inevtiable against which you rebel: conflict. And you will not succeed, because some realites are beyond humanity's ability to alter.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-11 01:02:23 UTC
Half Cocked Jack wrote:
Peace is a manmade invention--and as unnatural an invention as man has ever made. The very laws of nature and physics scream out against it. A state of absolute peace is a state where nothing is in motion, and state where nothing is in motion is a state where nothing exists. You can seek peace for yourself and try to live a tranquil life in which you do no harm--that is fit and proper. But to seek to impose it on everyone else just makes you another instigator of the inevtiable against which you rebel: conflict. And you will not succeed, because some realites are beyond humanity's ability to alter.

In the end, Entropy wins no matter how greatly one struggles against it. And the more determinedly one struggles against it, in the name of some laudable goal such as "peace," the more one risks falling into the slippery slope-trap of the tyrant. A great many atrocities have been committed in the name of altruism, in the name of God, or in the name of some other ideal. The road to human misery and suffering is paved with the good intentions of conquering "heroes".

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Desiderya
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-11-11 02:00:24 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
The State thinks that if we would just have everyone compete, live and die on our own personal merits, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream.


I feel that I should add that while this description is somewhat correct it is missing the fact that the State is not focused on converting outsiders but merely on making this dream, if you want to put it like that, possible for those living within state borders. But I don't want to derail this into a State discussion. If you feel like you want to explore this discussion feel free to drop me a message.

Arkady Sadik wrote:

Congratulations. From a philosopher and a person with a vision for peace, you have turned into a person no better than any other war monger out there. But I'm sure you believe that you happen to be right. Something surely no one else thinks.


Regarding the topic of this thread: Peace at any cost is not paradise. Peace at any cost means subjecting yourself to those who do not believe in peace at any cost.

Now, peace that everyone can agree to. That would be a dream come true. But I fear it might be about as possible as finding music that everyone likes.

So yes, I'd agree: I can't imagine such a peace. Sad as it is.


On that I can agree.
An absolute peace seems as impossible as human life without death, destruction, tears and toil as they're too fused into human nature. Forcing this out of us would mean to sacrifice our humanity. We might as well convert ourselves more into machines.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Kithrus
Tzedakah
#14 - 2011-11-11 02:51:50 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
That sounds like your problem.
No... no, I don't think so.

Every single empire thinks they have the solution for galactic paradise. The Federation thinks that just if everyone would be allowed to develop as an individual, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The Empire thinks that just if everyone would be believing in their God, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The State thinks that if we would just have everyone compete, live and die on our own personal merits, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. And Nation thinks that if we all just stop thinking on our own, we'll live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream.

Congratulations. From a philosopher and a person with a vision for peace, you have turned into a person no better than any other war monger out there. But I'm sure you believe that you happen to be right. Something surely no one else thinks.


Regarding the topic of this thread: Peace at any cost is not paradise. Peace at any cost means subjecting yourself to those who do not believe in peace at any cost.

Now, peace that everyone can agree to. That would be a dream come true. But I fear it might be about as possible as finding music that everyone likes.

So yes, I'd agree: I can't imagine such a peace. Sad as it is.


I don't mean this an an insult in anyway but slavery issues aside what does the Matari envision?

I often wondered what the universe would be like after this slavery issue is solved. I'm not going to nit pick how but lets entertain the thought that we are past that.

Frankly if you were to ask me after all is said and done and every Matari is 'home' I picture all of you looking around and asking 'now what?"

And again I stress this is not an insult or a personal attack but you really need to work on a ultimate goal of some kind.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#15 - 2011-11-11 02:55:58 UTC
Peace is theoretically very easy. One flaw in your plan, humans. Big flaw.
Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-11 02:58:02 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
That sounds like your problem.
No... no, I don't think so.

Every single empire thinks they have the solution for galactic paradise. The Federation thinks that just if everyone would be allowed to develop as an individual, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The Empire thinks that just if everyone would be believing in their God, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. The State thinks that if we would just have everyone compete, live and die on our own personal merits, we'd live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream. And Nation thinks that if we all just stop thinking on our own, we'll live in paradise - and they're willing to fight for that dream.

Congratulations. From a philosopher and a person with a vision for peace, you have turned into a person no better than any other war monger out there. But I'm sure you believe that you happen to be right. Something surely no one else thinks.


Regarding the topic of this thread: Peace at any cost is not paradise. Peace at any cost means subjecting yourself to those who do not believe in peace at any cost.

Now, peace that everyone can agree to. That would be a dream come true. But I fear it might be about as possible as finding music that everyone likes.

So yes, I'd agree: I can't imagine such a peace. Sad as it is.


I don't mean this an an insult in anyway but slavery issues aside what does the Matari envision?

I often wondered what the universe would be like after this slavery issue is solved. I'm not going to nit pick how but lets entertain the thought that we are past that.

Frankly if you were to ask me after all is said and done and every Matari is 'home' I picture all of you looking around and asking 'now what?"

And again I stress this is not an insult or a personal attack but you really need to work on a ultimate goal of some kind.


I will not speak for every man and woman of the People, but I know what I want. I wish to simply be left alone by you and yours. For our people to Walk our Path, to live our ways without having to fight for them.

There is no shame that we dream of a simple life within our Tribes and Clans and Septs, and not of interstellar conquest and an endless search for riches we do not need.
Tiara Sikai
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-11-11 08:33:37 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
I often wondered what the universe would be like after this slavery issue is solved. I'm not going to nit pick how but lets entertain the thought that we are past that.

Frankly if you were to ask me after all is said and done and every Matari is 'home' I picture all of you looking around and asking 'now what?"

And again I stress this is not an insult or a personal attack but you really need to work on a ultimate goal of some kind.


If you want a picture of what the universe would look after the slavery issue is solved, look at the Gallante / Caldari front. People will find a reason to kill one another without guidance - and with guidance, it seems there is always someone willing to rebel. No matter where I look, sales of Missiles outstrip sales of Antibiotics by far. War, it seems, is not so easy to get out of us.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#18 - 2011-11-11 08:51:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Sadik
Kithrus wrote:
I don't mean this an an insult in anyway but slavery issues aside what does the Matari envision?
I think you are quite right when you say there would be a lot of "now what?" going around. We are still recovering from eight hundred years of servitude and having our culture systematically eradicated, and are still trying to find who we are and what we want. But I do not think we can really develop that while we still have so many of our people in foreign captivity. While they are, their captivity is a very real part of our people and our culture. So I do not see that we can avoid the "now what?" part.

I believe what Gottii describes is quite close to how it is slowly developing, though: We redevelop our tribal and clan bonds, and settle in that life. I doubt it will always be peaceful, I doubt it will be "the perfect world", but it will be our world.

I hope we can develop the Minmatar culture into a culture that accepts others to be different. It's already deeply ingrained within us. Each clan is different, and as long as they stick to themselves, they can be different. Each tribe is different, and as long as they stick to themselves with their weird stuff, they can be as different as they like. Each race is different, and as long as they stick to themselves - they as well can be as different as they like.

But I fear we might be developing into a culture full of vengeance for an Empire that has wronged us in horrendous ways. A culture where just solving "this slavery issue" as you call it is not the solution anymore. Five years ago, I had hopes we might avoid it. That hope is getting slimmer and slimmer with every passing day.