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Why "high sec bears" don't go to null

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-27 03:37:05 UTC
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-07-27 03:43:19 UTC
I've had some fun, I like using a Pilgrim Cool

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-07-27 03:45:27 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.

If you want PvP, don't go into sov space - go into NPC null, Syndicate for example is full of PvP opportunities in which you dont jave to join the sheep.

Also, XLASB on Proteus? What the f*ck?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-27 03:50:14 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I've had some fun, I like using a Pilgrim Cool

Yeah it is fun, not really viable to travel 3 hours after each fight though. Solved it with the alt and will continue although cant refit without the travel. But it makes sense that the majority of people would not put in the time and would discount null altogether unless in an alliance.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-07-27 03:54:41 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.

If you want PvP, don't go into sov space - go into NPC null, Syndicate for example is full of PvP opportunities in which you dont jave to join the sheep.

Also, XLASB on Proteus? What the f*ck?

Lol XLSB burst tank for 1200, lows free gives 670 DPS and 2000ms and its covert ops. Aligns fast. If I cant kill him before I run out of charges Ill be tackled by his mates anyway. Im in a hub system with bunch of people in local.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-27 03:55:24 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I've had some fun, I like using a Pilgrim Cool

Yeah it is fun, not really viable to travel 3 hours after each fight though. Solved it with the alt and will continue although cant refit without the travel. But it makes sense that the majority of people would not put in the time and would discount null altogether unless in an alliance.


I use jumpclones Cool

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#7 - 2013-07-27 03:59:49 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.

If you want PvP, don't go into sov space - go into NPC null, Syndicate for example is full of PvP opportunities in which you dont jave to join the sheep.



Seconded on NPC null. I'm currently based in Curse. Just a few hops from high sec Derelik will put you right in the thick of things - people won't dock up for a Proteus here, oh no, in fact you'll find yourself hunted. Also there are NPC stations with repair facilities and a pretty well-stocked market here so you won't have to jump back to high sec for mundane tasks.

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Yaturi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-27 04:00:53 UTC
Quote:
so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.


So I assume you mean bubbles.

Heres 4 words of advice for you.

DScan Safespots Celestials Limbo

78 Jumps is too much, Im sure you could have red rovered it through some.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-27 04:03:17 UTC
Then let us bring our carriers/dreads/supers/titans into highsec. We promise not to be too abusive.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-27 04:05:23 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.

If you want PvP, don't go into sov space - go into NPC null, Syndicate for example is full of PvP opportunities in which you dont jave to join the sheep.



Seconded on NPC null. I'm currently based in Curse. Just a few hops from high sec Derelik will put you right in the thick of things - people won't dock up for a Proteus here, oh no, in fact you'll find yourself hunted. Also there are NPC stations with repair facilities and a pretty well-stocked market here so you won't have to jump back to high sec for mundane tasks.

I don't want to fight NPC null peeps, I want to murder Sov null bears who think they should be allowed to carebear in complete safety. We should be encouraged to fight in true null not discouraged.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-27 04:21:25 UTC
XL ASB... on a Proteus...

Let me get my locater agent.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2013-07-27 04:23:06 UTC
Yaturi wrote:
Quote:
so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.


So I assume you mean bubbles.

Heres 4 words of advice for you.

DScan Safespots Celestials Limbo

78 Jumps is too much, Im sure you could have red rovered it through some.

If it's a T3... couldn't you use interdiction nullifier.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-07-27 04:27:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Lugia3 wrote:
XL ASB... on a Proteus...

Let me get my locater agent.

Tell me whats wrong with that Im curious. It melted the oracle and if I had remembered to turn off auto on SB I wouldn't have gone anywhere near scratching my armor. Solo PvP you need to improvise fits to survive.

@alavaria - nulli is really only good good for travel - if you can get to your area its a wasted sub that gimps your ship to half its normal damage.

Also its a covert ops, near impossible to catch if you know the basics, even with out nulli

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Yaturi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-07-27 04:30:23 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Yaturi wrote:
Quote:
so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.


So I assume you mean bubbles.

Heres 4 words of advice for you.

DScan Safespots Celestials Limbo

78 Jumps is too much, Im sure you could have red rovered it through some.

If it's a T3... couldn't you use interdiction nullifier.



Yeaagh....Im obviously not a t3 pilot. I just know how to use standard coverts. Im still confused by all of this.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-07-27 06:27:12 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.


why 78 jumps? just setup a base in Torrinos (high-sec) and go up to VFK, 16 jumps, lots of yummy goons up there... you can even bring some stuff to nearby NPC stations to refit...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-07-27 06:39:00 UTC  |  Edited by: SmilingVagrant
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.


1. You fit the wrong ship for the job.
2. You would get much more success running as a duo.
3. Please run your ship through my gatecamp one day, we'll show you why the nullifier is important.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-07-27 07:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I decided to take my Proteus out for a bit of pew pew in 0.0 space. So I chucked on cloak and nullifier and set course for a nullbear station system 38 jumps into 0.0 space.

Soon as I got there everyone docks up. So I go AFK for a while come back and kill someone who decided to rat in local with a neut in system. I'm not happy with my DPS due to nulli sub so I jump 78 jumps dodging camps back to refit.

Few hours after arriving I spot an Oracle and engage him, being a high seccer with no skills I forgot to turn off my repeat on my XL ASB when I refit and cap out with him at 5% hull. Luckily he burns his guns out and I escape with 40% hull.

He docks up, I jump round trip 78 jumps back for reps.

Operating in 0.0 without joining the sheep is annoying. Its time intensive. It costs twice as much as a normal sub (activated an alt account with RR and cargo of boosters, ammo) to act as ghetto station.

In short 0.0 is shite for non-alliance. I think people might go out if it wasn't so one sidedly balanced in favor of nullbears.


1. You fit the wrong ship for the job.
2. You would get much more success running as a duo.
3. Please run your ship through my gatecamp one day, we'll show you why the nullifier is important.

1. Wrong. Ship is fine. Like I said fits are dependant on job. I need high dps, high agility, high speed, heavy burst tank. Show me a covert ops T3 that beats the Proteus 670 dps, 1200 hp tank, still gets 2kms and 6 sec align. I just forgot to turn the ASB off auto and capped myself out.
2. A gang of 10 would be better too. I don't like people so I solo.
3. 9/10 times or better Id escape unless you're jetting a ton of can in which Id get reimbursed.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-07-27 07:20:44 UTC
The people you call sheep win because they are smart enough to fly with friends.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-07-27 07:29:31 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
The people you call sheep win because they are smart enough to fly with friends.

Regardless of why they have such an imba system it explains quite a lot about why high seccers would be reluctant to go to null to interact (fight) with sov null people unless they joined alliance. How many people would spend min 70 mins (1 minute per system) for a single fight or to get ammo or refit?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#20 - 2013-07-27 07:29:34 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Then let us bring our carriers/dreads/supers/titans into highsec. We promise not to be too abusive.


And I promise not to laugh my ass off when you get concorded.

wink wink.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
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