Jita Park Speakers Corner

Specificity is a good thing in discussions like this.

You'd think we were being unreasonable in asking for specific ways the CSM has harmed the game in a thread titled "HILMAR - Remove the CSM Now..."

And it lets me vote with all 5 of my accounts, even though I'm in a small corp. Your point?

Also, where's the corruption?

Not reading all this blurf.
If there are players who actually think they would be better off without representation, then your bonkers and have no idea how business works.

This CSM is composed of null-sec players, sure, but they are players. Most of them have had many different styles of play or roles in the past.

From what I have seen, this CSM has been madly effective in getting CCP back on track with "Flying In Space". How bout that, they had a name for what the players would call "Eve" or perhaps "the game itself".

High-sec, null-sec, low-sec, indy, pirate, sov-war, whatever. All will benefit. Do you think we would be seeing these current changes if this CSM hadn't made the moves they have made over the last few months. I think not. We would be looking at more useless fluff in stations, crap to wear, and a severe lack of particiation in fleet events.

I wonder if the unrestricted freedom & democracy you seem to be a proponent of was implemented how well you could tolerate it?

Being a citizen of a real nation that has a representational government installed under the control of a constitutional democracy that protects the freedoms of all against the changing winds of the majority is a wonderful thing. I think the historical phrase is "Protecting the minority against the tyranny of the majority."

The majority of the player base is in High sec, they exercise their freedom of democratic majority to nerf the hell out of everything you like about null sec and EVE. For example make transit from null to high sec impossible for anything but shuttles and industrial ships. They vote to make it impossible for anyone with a negative sec status to fire a weapon in offense in high sec, you can defend yourself but can't gank .

Let's just fix the flaws in the CSM structure and not discard it. Maybe a way to recall members that are perceived as too biased against anyone who did not vote for them would be a good starting point. That way your voting power block could get you elected but only working for the greater good of the greater player base would keep you in office. Otherwise be careful what you hope for, ........ you might get it!

there are so many contradictions in your post that I'm not even going to bother writing up a response beyond this

So, most people in eve don't actually think the CSM is doing a bad job, then?

That's what they were doing and why we had to step in.

jesus this sheet still going on, humm last time I looked Mit's is still on the CSM so bascially you lot have wasted x hours of your lives talking crap.

And given his last few attempts, I'm thinking he should turn his idea truck into the ditch permanently, because I'm not particularly devious and I've had no problems basically blowing his ideas to kingdom come. He should rather leave that job to people such as yourself.

Malcanis for CSM7.