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Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#981 - 2013-07-26 17:42:43 UTC
Maximillian German wrote:

oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.

We are horrible at PvP, we have stated this since forever, it is just that you are more horrible at PVP than us.

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#982 - 2013-07-26 17:42:48 UTC
Maximillian German wrote:
oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.


1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced
2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#983 - 2013-07-26 17:46:20 UTC
Andski wrote:
Maximillian German wrote:
oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.

1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced
2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships

Structures don't get to run away.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#984 - 2013-07-26 17:46:37 UTC
"of course goons fancy themselves elite pvpers. blow up their 5m isk cyno ships to have an impact on the kdr they are so concerned about, that's how you get at the evil goons for wrecking your 300m isk hulk"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#985 - 2013-07-26 17:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Andski wrote:


1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced
2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships


but why are you reinforcing those cynoships now? just did see a rapier making one with all drones around it, the guy seemed to be scared by something... Cool

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#986 - 2013-07-26 17:47:49 UTC
Andski wrote:
"of course goons fancy themselves elite pvpers. blow up their 5m isk cyno ships to have an impact on the kdr they are so concerned about, that's how you get at the evil goons for wrecking your 300m isk hulk"

Is our killboard still green though?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#987 - 2013-07-26 17:50:26 UTC
a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership

the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#988 - 2013-07-26 17:57:03 UTC
Andski wrote:
a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership

the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates

You mean it doesn't work that way? I've been doing it wrong this whole time. Sad

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#989 - 2013-07-26 18:02:43 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.

You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!"



Uh, who said it wasn't fair?


This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens.

(That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie).

It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I?


Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them.

You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#990 - 2013-07-26 18:03:07 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Andski wrote:
Maximillian German wrote:
oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.

1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced
2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships

Structures don't get to run away.



Blast. And here I was warp-scrambling them all this time.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#991 - 2013-07-26 18:04:52 UTC
"no no guys disregard the goons and other people who are clearly goon alts telling you why this is a joke, mittens is v. mad about the fact that I destroyed 300m isk worth of his cyno ships in two months and he sent his crack team of forum warriors to dissuade us from utterly destroying their war effort 2 jdc5 carrier midpoints away from VFK by killing cyno ships after caps have already jumped to them"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#992 - 2013-07-26 18:06:35 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.

You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you.


I love how you didn't answer the question.

I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you.

Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is?



Populist? Irritated?

Stick to taking orders and tackling please.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Raff Axus
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#993 - 2013-07-26 18:06:45 UTC
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
Ustrello wrote:

So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.

Harry forever a coward through and through


C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway.

And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him.

Whatever is being done here, it sure is working.

To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#994 - 2013-07-26 18:08:11 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.

You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you.


I love how you didn't answer the question.

I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you.

Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is?



Populist? Irritated?

Stick to taking orders and tackling please.


You do realize I am not a Goon, right? I just happen to think that you all are morons, and that you're deluding yourselves if you think you are making any kind of impact.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#995 - 2013-07-26 18:09:09 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.

You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!"



Uh, who said it wasn't fair?


This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens.

(That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie).

It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I?


Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them.

You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.



You know not of my role in this.

But go ahead and make the usual assumptions in the usual response I can expect around here. I can understand why Harry is blocking people.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Alt Elongur
Doomheim
#996 - 2013-07-26 18:09:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership

the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates


Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat?

Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa!

This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#997 - 2013-07-26 18:11:54 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.

You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you.


I love how you didn't answer the question.

I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you.

Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is?



Populist? Irritated?

Stick to taking orders and tackling please.


You do realize I am not a Goon, right? I just happen to think that you all are morons, and that you're deluding yourselves if you think you are making any kind of impact.




That means in some manner you are a victim of goons, or too afraid of them, and like anybody with Stockholm syndrome, you defend your nemesis.

Knock down the cubicle! Break free! Join us!

We have cookies. Much better than SOV.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#998 - 2013-07-26 18:13:11 UTC
Alt Elongur wrote:
Andski wrote:
a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership

the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates


Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat?

Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa!




I used to take an exploration fit Cyclone to nullsec and rat. Never lost a ship doing that.


It had only 3 missile launchers on it and 5 small drones.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Maximillian German
Task Force Coalition
#999 - 2013-07-26 18:13:13 UTC
Harry only said that cyno ships were being reinforced, not that it was a top down decision. Train reading comprehension, etc, etc.
My question, though, is this: what did harry do to you guys that sent you ranting and 'sperging all up and down these forums about pubbies and cyno ships? I knew his plan was to hit you from behind, but I didn't think you'd be quite that tender. Anyway, I know you guys aren't really the helpful type, but if you're going to cry, would you mind doing it into my bucket? Don't need you getting the floor all salty.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1000 - 2013-07-26 18:15:20 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.

You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!"



Uh, who said it wasn't fair?


This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens.

(That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie).

It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I?


Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them.

You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.


hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm