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When I enlisted for the Caldari Army, they laughed.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-07-26 11:28:20 UTC
Kourdus wrote:

Which begs the question, why did you decide to become a Capsuleer later?

I am sorry, I would rather not talk about it.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-07-26 11:31:03 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
I'm inclined to agree. Putting aside the personal wealth available to a capsuleer; the difference that can be made through influence or force of arms over that of a ground-pounder is many, many times greater. You would become a force multiplier by your mere presence. It would be irresponsible not to take up the chance.

So, Kim is either lying to us or to herself. Not that I care at all. She's welcome to her delusions.

Delusions? Are you on the side of gallentean bootlicker?
I always were thinking there are some gallentean-minded rot inside your corp, but well, suit yourself.

The problem is, that to become such force, you have to die.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-07-26 12:07:48 UTC
I was under the impression that you of all people believed dying for the State was a noble cause, especially if the State's reward, in this case a new capsuleer agent, was worth the risk. Perhaps I was wrong and you have no cause that you would die for. I don't know what makes you tick though, nor will I pretend to.

Allegations of Gallente boot-licking or favoritism are way off the mark however. You'll have a very, very hard time selling that to anyone.
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#44 - 2013-07-26 15:26:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
I'm inclined to agree. Putting aside the personal wealth available to a capsuleer; the difference that can be made through influence or force of arms over that of a ground-pounder is many, many times greater. You would become a force multiplier by your mere presence. It would be irresponsible not to take up the chance.

So, Kim is either lying to us or to herself. Not that I care at all. She's welcome to her delusions.

Delusions? Are you on the side of gallentean bootlicker?
I always were thinking there are some gallentean-minded rot inside your corp, but well, suit yourself.


Ahh, Puppy. Always back to the same old standbys. So predictable. If anyone disagrees with you, or questions you, they're Gallente scum. I'm seriously amused that you keep throwing that one at Gesakaarin-haani's little gang, though. A more hardcore and scary mob of State loyalists I've yet to meet.

No, sorry Puppy, you're not scary. You just yip and snap and bounce around nipping at ankles. That's annoying, not scary.

As for me, why yes, I am infected with Gallente thoughts. I spent some time in Sinq and rather enjoyed my time there. The Federation is deeply flawed, but certainly has its good points. In your case, I have to wonder whether you've been spending time with the Equilibrium.

Doubtful, though. The main group hate capsuleers, and I'm pretty sure that dear Koro, delusional as he is, has some standards.

Does make for a fascinating possibility though. In your deluded little world, Heth is the State, thus anyone who betrayed him has betrayed the State... which unfortunately means the entire State. Does that mean that they're all traitorous scum who must be exterminated? Does, in fact, the whole of New Eden deserve to die?

I can see you fitting in with those freaks nicely. Hearing you discuss cleansing the garden would make a nice change from the same-old-same-old xenophobia.

If nothing else, it does mean that calling you a 'State loyalist' is technically and philosophically inaccurate. You're loyal to a dying illusion. The real thing has no interest in your squeaking.

Something to think about, Puppy. Your world is unsustainable. Sooner or later, it'll disintegrate on you, and leave you sobbing in the ruins.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-07-26 15:34:48 UTC
This looks a lot like sobbing in the ruins to me. What were the stages of grief, again? I'm pretty sure the first one was Denial.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#46 - 2013-07-26 15:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Morwen Lagann
Stitcher wrote:
This looks a lot like sobbing in the ruins to me. What were the stages of grief, again? I'm pretty sure the first one was Denial.

That's the first stage, yes. I think Diana doesn't want to move on to the others, though - she seems perfectly intent on staying exactly where she is.

Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:
Doubtful, though. The main group hate capsuleers, and I'm pretty sure that dear Koro, delusional as he is, has some standards.

Yeah, he does.

And she wouldn't even meet the first one: she's not Khanid.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-07-26 16:06:38 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
I was under the impression that you of all people believed dying for the State was a noble cause, especially if the State's reward, in this case a new capsuleer agent, was worth the risk. Perhaps I was wrong and you have no cause that you would die for. I don't know what makes you tick though, nor will I pretend to.

Everything I have, including my life, belong to the State. If the State will need to take my life, then I will gladly pay the price.
And whom does your life belong?

Anja Suorsa wrote:
IAllegations of Gallente boot-licking or favoritism are way off the mark however. You'll have a very, very hard time selling that to anyone.

I don't have to sell anything to anyone.
You are doing it yourself by standing on their side.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#48 - 2013-07-26 16:14:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
IAllegations of Gallente boot-licking or favoritism are way off the mark however. You'll have a very, very hard time selling that to anyone.

I don't have to sell anything to anyone.
You are doing it yourself by standing on their side.


You do live in a strange world, Puppy. Everybody else, not least Pyre themselves, are bemused by your insistence that they're Gallente sympathisers.

For the rest of us that don't live in Happy Heth Land, would you care to point to any evidence?

Silly me, of course not. That would be too far from your comfort zone.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-07-26 16:18:03 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

For the rest of us that don't live in Happy Heth Land, would you care to point to any evidence?

I wasn't talking to you. If she will need anything, she will ask me herself.
As for you, disgusting creature, please return to licking gallente boots and don't clog comms with your ravings.
Thanks in advance.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-07-26 16:35:17 UTC
If I had a million ISK for every time you did that, I'd be richer than Chribba.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2013-07-26 16:57:42 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
IAllegations of Gallente boot-licking or favoritism are way off the mark however. You'll have a very, very hard time selling that to anyone.

I don't have to sell anything to anyone.
You are doing it yourself by standing on their side.


You do live in a strange world, Puppy. Everybody else, not least Pyre themselves, are bemused by your insistence that they're Gallente sympathisers.

For the rest of us that don't live in Happy Heth Land, would you care to point to any evidence?

Silly me, of course not. That would be too far from your comfort zone.


Maybe a law suit would shut her up?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#52 - 2013-07-26 16:58:41 UTC
exactly how much respect has she shown for the authority of the State, the Corporations and their laws in the past, suuolo?

On a scale of none to frak all?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#53 - 2013-07-26 17:06:40 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
If I had a million ISK for every time you did that, I'd be richer than Chribba.

You sure? Lol

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Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-07-26 17:48:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Anja Suorsa
Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
I was under the impression that you of all people believed dying for the State was a noble cause, especially if the State's reward, in this case a new capsuleer agent, was worth the risk. Perhaps I was wrong and you have no cause that you would die for. I don't know what makes you tick though, nor will I pretend to.

Everything I have, including my life, belong to the State. If the State will need to take my life, then I will gladly pay the price.
And whom does your life belong?


My life is my own. I choose to use it in service of the State. I'm under no illusion that as a capsuleer, I am essentially unbound. I could quite happily go on my merry way and join up with a null-bloc. I don't though.

Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
IAllegations of Gallente boot-licking or favoritism are way off the mark however. You'll have a very, very hard time selling that to anyone.

I don't have to sell anything to anyone.
You are doing it yourself by standing on their side.


Please explain how, in any way, I or my kirjuun stand on their side? Our actions have been steadfast, open and consistent throughout. Our allegiance is quite clearly with the State, it is only you that apparently can't see it.


Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Maybe a law suit would shut her up?


Doubtful.

At any rate, for my part in this derailment, I offer my apologies, pilot Kourdus. Moitte.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-07-27 05:09:43 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
If I had a million ISK for every time you did that, I'd be richer than Chribba.

You sure? Lol


Call it 80%.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

ColonelNick
Providence Guard
#56 - 2013-07-27 06:14:34 UTC
Kourdus wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Simply prove yourself worthy of the investment and faith of the State, pilot, and the rest will come.


An interesting sentiment, given the freedom that being a Capsuleer potentially allows.

the State did not show "faith" in me until it was found that I could be a more useful weapon than previously thought.

until then, I was nobody, not even worthy of a basic citizenship and barely worth a pity enlistment in the Army, based solely on my heritage and not on my actions, talents, or merits.

The State is my home, yet I find myself wondering, for what reason should I endeavor to "prove myself" to the State, rather than to the Republic, or the Federation, or those in the Null sectors?

None but The State will look down on me simply for being what I am.

I am Caldari, yet until I was proven Capsule Compatible, The State did not consider me so. You'll understand if I am a slight bit cynical about all this.



None but the state? I believe the Amarrians might have a thing or two to say about your Matari blood.

I can understand the general dislike of your fathers breach of Caldari traditional marriage practice, Duty before Love.

He took the Gallentean route. Lust before love.

In both instances, the latter must be built, slowly, brick by brick, to make a lasting relationship with your life partner. However in one, it is our Duty. In the other, it is a mere early convenience of chemistry.

I do not fault you for your Fathers actions, Kourdus, (Matari sounding name, i wonder if you picked that for yourself under the re-identity protocol of concord or not.) But i agree your father made a grevious error in breaching tradition. He should be the one at the point of scorne.

Even so, I believe your Caldari blood makes you one of us, so long as you wish to be one of us and show the same Patriotism and love for the state. If not, you can stand with the blood traitor Guri's.

ColonelNick, CEO, Providence Guard, Callsign: "Codeine"

Kourdus
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-07-27 06:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kourdus
ColonelNick wrote:
Kourdus wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Simply prove yourself worthy of the investment and faith of the State, pilot, and the rest will come.


An interesting sentiment, given the freedom that being a Capsuleer potentially allows.

the State did not show "faith" in me until it was found that I could be a more useful weapon than previously thought.

until then, I was nobody, not even worthy of a basic citizenship and barely worth a pity enlistment in the Army, based solely on my heritage and not on my actions, talents, or merits.

The State is my home, yet I find myself wondering, for what reason should I endeavor to "prove myself" to the State, rather than to the Republic, or the Federation, or those in the Null sectors?

None but The State will look down on me simply for being what I am.

I am Caldari, yet until I was proven Capsule Compatible, The State did not consider me so. You'll understand if I am a slight bit cynical about all this.



None but the state? I believe the Amarrians might have a thing or two to say about your Matari blood.

I can understand the general dislike of your fathers breach of Caldari traditional marriage practice, Duty before Love.

He took the Gallentean route. Lust before love.

In both instances, the latter must be built, slowly, brick by brick, to make a lasting relationship with your life partner. However in one, it is our Duty. In the other, it is a mere early convenience of chemistry.

I do not fault you for your Fathers actions, Kourdus, (Matari sounding name, i wonder if you picked that for yourself under the re-identity protocol of concord or not.) But i agree your father made a grevious error in breaching tradition. He should be the one at the point of scorne.

Even so, I believe your Caldari blood makes you one of us, so long as you wish to be one of us and show the same Patriotism and love for the state. If not, you can stand with the blood traitor Guri's.


Kourdus is a callsign. In the greater scheme of the Cluster and the State, I have had no name of import, due to my former status. I've decided to keep it that way.

I chose my callsign as a reminder of home, but it is not Matari in nature, as far as I know.
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#58 - 2013-07-27 10:30:39 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

For the rest of us that don't live in Happy Heth Land, would you care to point to any evidence?

I wasn't talking to you. If she will need anything, she will ask me herself.
As for you, disgusting creature, please return to licking gallente boots and don't clog comms with your ravings.
Thanks in advance.


Last I checked, Puppy, I was the lickee rather than the licker in that dynamic.

Suorsa-haani has now posed the question as well. Let me guess - you now go mysteriously quiet again?
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#59 - 2013-07-27 15:13:23 UTC
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Repentence Tyrathlion wrote:

For the rest of us that don't live in Happy Heth Land, would you care to point to any evidence?

I wasn't talking to you. If she will need anything, she will ask me herself.
As for you, disgusting creature, please return to licking gallente boots and don't clog comms with your ravings.
Thanks in advance.


Last I checked, Puppy, I was the lickee rather than the licker in that dynamic.


Usually. I'd note that they're not Gallente boots, either.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#60 - 2013-07-27 22:26:56 UTC
ColonelNick wrote:
None but the state? I believe the Amarrians might have a thing or two to say about your Matari blood.


Yes, they'd say "Do you believe in the Amarrian Faith? Yes? Good - Welcome aboard."

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0