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I suppose so. A shame that AFK people and marketing alts tend not to undock anyway :p

Jackie had an interesting convo with one of the nullsec bubble campers yesterday. Every point was the same "boilerplate" spew, "blob or GTFO", etc. They were mad because they didn't get the talwar in their bubble, and like a good destroyer pilot, managed to get out of the bubble under cloak. Their point was, 30 minutes of Jackie's time was wasted getting out of the bubble camp, but the map activity showed one kill in the hour, meaning they were there much longer than 30 minutes.

So they complained to another player about 30 minutes wasted escaping THEIR bubble camp, when they were there longer than that with no kills.

With these kinds of nullsec tears, the greifers are playing in the wrong parts of space.

:D had the same fun with those guys yesterday, its the best thing you move around with those 30ms in the bubble and they go crazy because they don't find you, even better as killing cynos :D god I love that ****

Thank you for taking so much time to write that. It seems like you care. Hope that does not get you fired.


Now keep in mind this is a game, and people should experiment. I've watched Harry's endeavors and have an alt in dessies doing similar things, and running into similar fitting challenges. Because we are not doing conventional stuff, we cannot adhere to conventional fitting doctrines.

Long long ago I put together an exploration ship (this was when exploration sites had rats - lots of rats) and looking at the saved fittings, seemingly one every few weeks as I returned to highsec sporadically to unload loot and refit, I watched a progression of modules go from bad to better and finally to a loadout that was using every last bit if PG and CPU and was quite an effective ship. This was a T1 BC (Cyclone pre tiericide) that could go into nullsec and hit radar sites successfully and kill NPC rats.

(Ironically the changes to the Cyclone made it better for exploration, but they changed exploration too making it obsolete for exploration. Go figure)

All of this was trial and error and in the end, there were fittings I would not do again.

So, I can understand your points and where you are coming from, but one aspect of this game is the room to experiment and do pretty much whatever you want, even if it's not the best thing. Going alone in T1 ships in nullsec and hunting/ganking/etc. is going to take some experimentation and things will get strange. Like my old exploration ship, we will be seeing this "lone wolf" fit evolve as skills improve and experience teaches what fitting works best.

Be patient. They'll get better.

I know dude. But he's poking and people respond, often with usefull advice he might or might not start using. He's turning this place into a 40 page lolfactory exposée. I'm fully aware it has no serious impact on daily in-game Goon life as it is, but he's sticking it to the Goons like rock n' roll stuck it to the man. That didn't exactly change much either, but it sure was fun and it pissed a lot of people off. I can sincerely appreciate his drive, as a lot of people don't come close in terms of determination. He's putting a lot of thought in this effort and I applaud his will to strike despite his losses, despite people telling him he's doing it wrong. I'm just rooting for the underdog here and I hope his efforts will grow into an actual problem for Goonswarm!

Right... how is it not conventional? You guys are camping a station. It's something that happens literally every day by both experienced vets and noobs.
People here are not saying they don't have room to experiment, they are just giving some fitting advice to use when experimenting. But that said the whole things is relatively pointless. As we've said in our previous posts, it's mostly alts there, which is why 99% of all the kills are cyno pilots.

If Harry is trying to inspire or break the mould he's going about it all wrong. He's in the wrong system, in the wrong fits and he's boasting false success. At most he will convince a bunch of naive players that he has some kind of plan, they will die and come on the forum crying.

I'm not saying gatecamps are great though am I? Read what I'm saying. He's camping a station that nearly nobody is using. A few JFs and carriers go in and out, but he stands no chance of capturing them, and the rest are generally afk. What is the point of camping a station that is not being used, what can the possible best outcome be? I wouldn't even bother counter posting if he simply said "were just camping VFK" but he chucks up all of this nonsense about VFK burning and how hes killing people every day, and it's a load of garbage.


He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. The only effect he is having is that he saves people 10 minutes on deathcloning their cyno pilot back to deployment, so he is in fact helping goons.

You're accusing a member of the somethingawful (and a minimum of 5 others) forum community for writing a verbose post. I'll keenly note you can't speak against it's content and instead are idly flailing your hands hoping it'll go away.

Not really.

thats right we are like campers who sleep in their garden, no need for property there... they are all too much attached to their captains quarters, I prefer sleeping in a spaceship between the stars... thats what SpaceJunkys are all about...

only for the hardcore

Hmmm....
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3344887#post3344887
SBUs are for contesting sov you know.

And again, VFK is EMPTY. We are all DEPLOYED. So you are going there to look at empty space and speed up our cynos.

What that bubble camper meant is "you are not worth the time chasing you, bring friends or go away"