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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#41 - 2013-07-25 13:41:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

The guy came here looking for help to his problem. I see one person provided good feedback. You on the other hand write multiple paragraphs trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. This is not his fault per say but at least one person gave him some viable options to help himself.


It is his fault. We're playing a video game. If you play pac man and get bit by a ghost, it's because you zigged when you should have zagged. This is EVE, people are supposed to compete with you if they want to, regardless of whether you do or not.

It amazes me, some people can't even take responsibility in a video game. The guy should get better at the high sec game or go where people can't steal his stuff (or where he could shoot back).

I mean , you literally just highlighted the word responsibility as if it were a bad thing.

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So in short I guess you and people like you are my problem. You provide nothing to thread after thread except to troll it into the ground. Nothing I can do about it except to call you out on it.

For your sake and others like yourself better hope I never get ISD because you would be on permanent forum vacation.



So you can't deal with the truth, and it's somehow my problem? And you would use power given to you for personal gain/comfort rather than for the good of the community? That sounds about right for you.

This is why I hate your type too. You never can understand that it's you and your emotional over-sensitivity and inability to use or understand logic that is the problem, not the people around you.
Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-07-25 13:41:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Manfred Hideous
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling


It may have been applied with Jenn's usual layer of acidic words but truth is not trolling


I tend to forget not everyone is from where I'm from and some have a hard time with blunt truth. This is how we talk at each other in Texas, such has "don't be an idiot, don't have a problem".


Try being a former masshole living in Georgia. I love it here so much more than the ultra left state I abandoned but it took some getting used to. Apparently you're supposed to take "Your so special" or "sweet" as an insult. I also talk a blue streak, which can present challenges. LOL

That said, Hotlanta is teh awesome.

E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


For your sake and others like yourself better hope I never get ISD because you would be on permanent forum vacation.



It's generally better not to brag about how you'll abuse your powers BEFORE you get them.


Fact is, Lowsec is where you can get these sites going without a lot of hassle. I have an alt running data/relic sites in lowsec. Unlike many, I don't forget that the imicus can pack two flights of 4 drones. It's quite good at letting the intruding explorer know not to mess with my site.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#43 - 2013-07-25 13:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Quote:
Manfred Hideous wrote:

I tend to forget not everyone is from where I'm from and some have a hard time with blunt truth. This is how we talk at each other in Texas, such has "don't be an idiot, don't have a problem".


Try being a former masshole living in Georgia. I love it here so much more than the ultra left state I abandoned but it took some getting used to. Apparently you're supposed to take "Your so special" or "sweet" as an insult. I also talk a blue streak, which can present challenges. LOL

That said, Hotlanta is teh awesome.


I vacation in Savannah, it feels like home lol.

Being where I am I work with a lot of people from the North East and Canada (and everywhere else). They are great people and bring a lot to the table, but my God are they ever sensitive, especially the New Yorkers :) .
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#44 - 2013-07-25 13:48:17 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Jenn aSide wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

The guy came here looking for help to his problem. I see one person provided good feedback. You on the other hand write multiple paragraphs trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. This is not his fault per say but at least one person gave him some viable options to help himself.


It is his fault. We're playing a video game. If you play pac man and get bit by a ghost, it's because you zigged when you should have zagged. This is EVE, people are supposed to compete with you if they want to, regardless of whether you do or not.

It amazes me, some people can't even take responsibility in a video game. The guy should get better at the high sec game or go where people can't steal his stuff (or where he could shoot back).

I mean , you literally just highlighted the word responsibility as if it were a bad thing.

Quote:

So in short I guess you and people like you are my problem. You provide nothing to thread after thread except to troll it into the ground. Nothing I can do about it except to call you out on it.

For your sake and others like yourself better hope I never get ISD because you would be on permanent forum vacation.



So you can't deal with the truth, and it's somehow my problem? And you would use power given to you for personal gain/comfort rather than for the good of the community? That sounds about right for you.

This is why I hate your type too. You never can understand that it's you and your emotional over-sensitivity and inability to use or understand logic that is the problem, not the people around you.

LMAO emotional? Has zero to do with emotions or me even. This is all about you jenn and your inability to cope with whatever issue you have real life or otherwise that forces you to TROLL every single post .

So stop trying to look outward or to others for your problem and start looking inwards. There is where you real problem is.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#45 - 2013-07-25 13:51:07 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

LMAO emotional? Has zero to do with emotions or me even. This is all about you jenn and your inability to cope with whatever issue you have real life or otherwise that forces you to TROLL every single post .

So stop trying to look outward or to others for your problem and start looking inwards. There is where you real problem is.


You do realize that you are the one replying to me (when I wasn't even talking to you in the 1st place) right?

Real life issue? You're the one doing all the crying and screeching lol. If you don't like what i got to say, why not use the ignore function?
Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-07-25 13:51:10 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


So stop trying to look outward or to others for your problem and start looking inwards. There where you real problem is.


Just because someone has a different way of expressing themselves does not mean they are always trolling. It could be argued that I feel griefed after reading every one of your sandy va**** posts but I know you can't help it.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#47 - 2013-07-25 13:54:23 UTC
Manfred Hideous wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:


So stop trying to look outward or to others for your problem and start looking inwards. There where you real problem is.


Just because someone has a different way of expressing themselves does not mean they are always trolling. It could be argued that I feel griefed after reading every one of your sandy va**** posts but I know you can't help it.


Dude, you made everyone in my house turn around and look at me because I was laughing so hard (i was picturing the guy on a beach in a dress in absolute agony screaming "JENN!!!!" for some reason Twisted ).
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#48 - 2013-07-25 14:01:32 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Quote:
Manfred Hideous wrote:

I tend to forget not everyone is from where I'm from and some have a hard time with blunt truth. This is how we talk at each other in Texas, such has "don't be an idiot, don't have a problem".


Try being a former masshole living in Georgia. I love it here so much more than the ultra left state I abandoned but it took some getting used to. Apparently you're supposed to take "Your so special" or "sweet" as an insult. I also talk a blue streak, which can present challenges. LOL

That said, Hotlanta is teh awesome.


I vacation in Savannah, it feels like home lol.

Being where I am I work with a lot of people from the North East and Canada (and everywhere else). They are great people and bring a lot to the table, but my God are they ever sensitive, especially the New Yorkers :) .

LOL I was raised southern by the grace of GOD. I would have pegged you for a yankee just because I dont like how you act and react and how poorly you conduct yourself. Easy to accept you that way I guess. That would be my prejudice though not yours.
Ila Gant
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-07-25 14:03:04 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
... trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. ...

* Dons lore-glasses

Umm... Isn't it the rat's stuff, and aren't we capsuleers stealing it from them? So it wasn't his stuff until it's in his hold...

/lore-colored-glasses
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#50 - 2013-07-25 16:07:13 UTC
Ila Gant wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
... trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. ...

* Dons lore-glasses

Umm... Isn't it the rat's stuff, and aren't we capsuleers stealing it from them? So it wasn't his stuff until it's in his hold...

/lore-colored-glasses

I think of it as his since he entered the site. I know it goes to who gets it though. Same thing use to happen in eq2 a mmo i use to play. Would be harvesting a node and somone else would come up harvest on the same node, even though plenty other were spread around.

Some people just like being Richard Skulls.
HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#51 - 2013-07-25 16:19:30 UTC
I guess my issue is in my opinion as well as outlined in the forum rules is the forums should be a place to get quick answers or solutions to questions or problems you may have. A person shouldn’t have to wade through 20 pages of flames and trolls from people with personal epeen or psychological issue to get that answer.

Those people need to be given forum vacations.

The OP came here looking for those answers not looking for flames and poor trolling. I saw one person provide viable feedback. This is sad. The forum warriors need to go play on the forums where you need to pay your ten bucks a month where the only people you subject your flames and trolling on are those that are looking for it. Not people that come here looking for help or answers.
Ila Gant
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-07-25 17:27:04 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Ila Gant wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
... trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. ...

* Dons lore-glasses

Umm... Isn't it the rat's stuff, and aren't we capsuleers stealing it from them? So it wasn't his stuff until it's in his hold...

/lore-colored-glasses

I think of it as his since he entered the site. I know it goes to who gets it though. Same thing use to happen in eq2 a mmo i use to play. Would be harvesting a node and somone else would come up harvest on the same node, even though plenty other were spread around.

Some people just like being Richard Skulls.

I just have a problem with that premise in Eve. The games designers went to great lengths to ensure that there are no private dungeons (instances). The reason for this is to subvert the assumption that those rats are "yours" or the loot they drop is guaranteed to you if you shot the rat.

That way of understanding the game is wrong.

As for advice, assuming he stays in hi-sec, there are only two things to do:

  1. Concentrate on loot first, rat-cleaning second, as already advised in this thread.
  2. Run the sites with buddies and divide the loot, still adhering to #1.

The notion that the loot belongs to whoever starts the site is incorrect thinking for Eve's design.
Kalishka Askulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-07-25 17:56:56 UTC
Shame the OP is talking about high-sec sites. If it were low-sec, the priority would be (for me, at least):

1) Shoot the OP

2) Take the goods

3) Skip town so the Rats are the next chumps problem

Evil

Betty White knows it
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-07-25 18:37:36 UTC
Put a bounty on them oh wait thats right bounties are useless LOL

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