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Not QQ-ing on the matter, just disappointed.
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Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#21 - 2013-07-24 11:07:56 UTC
Get a couple of friends in suicide ships and gank him.
Jorden Ishonen
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-07-24 11:32:11 UTC
Daisai wrote:
Get a couple of friends in suicide ships and gank him.



OP already ruled that out because...well, because.
Fr00b Snap
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-07-24 11:44:48 UTC
Bring ammo according to his resist holes, fit scram and web. Kill him when you steal his loot and he shoots you or when he steals your loot.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#24 - 2013-07-24 20:44:37 UTC
Joan Greywind wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Why are you wasting your time with highsec DED sites?



Slight correction: why are you wasting your time in highsec?

Tired response. Why are you wasting our time with trolling?

P


I guess that question kind of answers itself really.....
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#25 - 2013-07-24 22:03:13 UTC
- fit a MWD
- fit a point
- pack as much DPS as you can
- set safety to yellow
- get to the drop before it pops
- loot the faction loot whether it belongs to your or not
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-07-24 22:43:58 UTC
After having thought about the OP's post for sometime, I've come to a conclusion.

Apparently, making people who steal loot from mission runners and ore from miners is not enough. In order to insure that noone steals anything from anyone anywhere and by any means all players who enter HS should therefore be flagged a suspect. No exceptions. CCP, make is so!

Don't ban me, bro!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-07-25 11:51:07 UTC
Jorden Ishonen wrote:
Hugo Z Hackenbush wrote:
How dare you ask a question in here!
Ofc the crusty hole munchers will shoot you down with their normal "U R QQing!!!1omg!1!!" line.
Personally I love it, CCP wants moar subs, and yet the scum drive them away! yeehaw! Roll


Which is why EVE has grown in size every year for ten years, amirite?

EVE is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

That said, it's nice having people like you around. I need loot pinatas to distract the gankers from my activities.


If you can find me, you can do as you please! Go on, enjoy it! I know where you live! Twisted

[b][i]Eve is like the way that gun law equals a lot of deaths followed by a lot of people being real nice to each other, well, it would be if we all had our names and address posted on our character info! I wonder just how many players would still act like assholes? Fly safe, and lock your back door tonight
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-07-25 11:58:31 UTC
Singulis Pacifica wrote:
I've encountered this quite often in high-sec. I scan a new DED site and start to destroy the rats. Then when I'm about to enter the last section, someone enters, hurries to the next gate and grabs the target with the best loot.

I understand it's all part of the sandbox, but what options do I have? Is it just a matter of more dps on my ship ? Or can something else be done about it?

please note: wardecs are not an option as I'm in an npc corp. And neither is a suicide gank, btw. :-)



I do ded sites in 0.0 sec , then the last rat could be billions of worth , we always try to shoot that rat first and grab the loot.

Like the guy did it to you, just kill as fast possible the loot rat

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-07-25 12:01:16 UTC
Singulis Pacifica wrote:
I've encountered this quite often in high-sec. I scan a new DED site and start to destroy the rats. Then when I'm about to enter the last section, someone enters, hurries to the next gate and grabs the target with the best loot.

I understand it's all part of the sandbox, but what options do I have? Is it just a matter of more dps on my ship ? Or can something else be done about it?

please note: wardecs are not an option as I'm in an npc corp. And neither is a suicide gank, btw. :-)


Ignore the other targets, they're just the sugar topping. You want the cake and if possible the whole cake.

Kill the rats only after You've got Your cake, sugar is fine but no adequate substitude for real, delicious cake. With chocolate chips.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Marianne Pollard
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-07-25 12:06:55 UTC
Ever tried being the thief and not the victim?

It's fun, profitable and saves you time and effort.

Fit for PvP - when they steal out of your shiny wreck and go yellow, you may even get a kill out of it too. The last thing they'll be expecting is a nub in an NPC corp to point them. Brown trousers all around.

Wonderful.

Mocking the afflicted since 2013.
Manfred Hideous
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-07-25 12:19:55 UTC
Singulis Pacifica wrote:
Vesen Jouhinen wrote:


You know its gonna be a QQ thread when that is in the title.


Mmm, I suppose you need to actually read the post before you answer. I am not complaining on the matter, it's just frustrating to see all the work you did flushed down the drain.

Domanique Altares wrote:

Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.


Well, if this is encountered a lot (wasn't aware of that many people post about it), perhaps CCP could look into it. It would definitely help new players with their exploration efforts. On the matter of low-sec, I've thought about it, because you can at least fire at them without CONCORD interference, but I'll do the option Seraph Essael provided.

Thanks for that Seraph, I'll move systems to a hopefully remote area that hardly anyone visits. And also thanks to everyone else providing feedback and tips. It's appreciated.


Are you serious? The last update made exploration so easy it's not even a requirement to explore. CCP has already looked into it and (as is their wont) made it ridiculously easy for new players who don't wish to do any work.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#32 - 2013-07-25 12:59:33 UTC
Verunae Caseti wrote:


Things that will not help: "not QQing" on the forums.


Seems to me he is asking more for suggestions.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#33 - 2013-07-25 13:03:28 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Bring a bumpy friend.






yes because we all have friends sitting on the side lines just waiting for us to ask them to sit around in game for hours on end waiting for something that may or may not happen. Eve is full of people chomping at the bit to do this. Roll
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#34 - 2013-07-25 13:08:17 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#35 - 2013-07-25 13:08:33 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
if you were killing rats when the gate was unlocked then... why were you shooting at the rats?


read on the sites, carry in your hold the gold tags, hacker cards, etc to skip rooms. learn the triggers, kill only the dps that you need to sustain your tank while you kill and loot the lootship. and above all, deal faction specific damage and fit a faction specific tank. use faction ammo or T2, depending on the target. carry paste to repair the modules that you should be overloading, etc, etc.

a faction specific tank that pushes resists up to 70% therm/kin tank can make sites like the serpentis 4/10 extremely easy to tank. a caracal can do it with t2 hams, and since the last ship is a battleship you will apply the paper DPS shooting rage missiles. i know that for a new player that might be pushing it, but the same tank on a drake will pretty much make the drake invulnerable to the rats. and require a lot less training.

if you can afford it the pirate variants like the gila can make highsec sites even faster than with the old t3.


remember that the people that fly around blitzing those sites are pushing their tanks to the limit. often they fit omnitanks so they don't have to refit, so if they steal your stuff follow them and if you have a few catalysts and a few corpmates, help the NPCs defend their overseer!. Pirate

Now this is good helpful advice. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to provide viable feedback.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#36 - 2013-07-25 13:11:18 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#37 - 2013-07-25 13:16:45 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling


WTF is wrong with you?

Explain exactly what about what I said was untrue.
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#38 - 2013-07-25 13:28:01 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling


It may have been applied with Jenn's usual layer of acidic words but truth is not trolling
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#39 - 2013-07-25 13:30:42 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.

Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling


It may have been applied with Jenn's usual layer of acidic words but truth is not trolling


I tend to forget not everyone is from where I'm from and some have a hard time with blunt truth. This is how we talk at each other in Texas, such has "don't be an idiot, don't have a problem".
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#40 - 2013-07-25 13:34:54 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Congrats OP. You're the first person to bring up this problem...

...In the last hour.

ETA: I'll help you. Your option is to go to lowsec. There, anyone coming into your plex is coming to kill you for your ****. The bonus is that you can attempt to kill them first, with no silly CONCORD intervention.


Well said.

I'm against the idea of forcing anyone anywhere, such as out of high sec. i say play where you want to...BUT...accept the fact that there are and should be consequences for every choice. Some people don't get that which is why you get whinning about various things from high sec people and whining about cynos and cloaky folk from some null sec people (*cough RenterBears cough*).

One of the consequences of "exploring" in congested high sec space where you can't use force to prevent someone from taking your loot is...someone is going to take your loot and if you shoot them you get CONCORD. Don't like that, leave high sec and never have to worry about that (but then have to worry about other stuff), OR get better/faster/luckier and stay in high sec.Of course that takes effort and being responsible for one's own enjoyment. Some people can't do that and it won't be long before there are calls of "CONCORD should shoot people who still my plex loot" or something.....

As usual this not so much helpful as trolling


WTF is wrong with you?

Explain exactly what about what I said was untrue.


The guy came here looking for help to his problem. I see one person provided good feedback. You on the other hand write multiple paragraphs trying to make it look like it’s all this guys fault someone is taking his stuff. This is not his fault per say but at least one person gave him some viable options to help himself.

So in short I guess you and people like you are my problem. You provide nothing to thread after thread except to troll it into the ground. Nothing I can do about it except to call you out on it.

For your sake and others like yourself better hope I never get ISD because you would be on permanent forum vacation.
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