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Vaga/SFI/Muninn bigger wolf?
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Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-25 01:00:12 UTC
Okay so, which is a bigger wolf? go in there brawl etc etc etc, i know that the vagabond is the best kiter over the three (maybe sfi after hac rebalance[i sense a vaga nerf])

If anyone has baught abaddon21's wolf pvp guide, thats the tactis that i will mainly be using, untill i get his sfi guide.
Thanks

Steel
Aria Ta'Rohk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-07-25 01:48:45 UTC
Well I can attest that while the Wolf is a great brawler, it doesn't have a T2 bigger cousin. The SFI or even the new ScyFI is the closest you are going to get to a large Wolf. I feel that the Muninn will still be garbage after the patch as a brawler and the Vaga is going to be terrible with a 4 mid active tank. Just train for the SFI and ScyFI and you'll be set.

I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2013-07-25 01:52:01 UTC
new ASB vaga is incredibly powerful, I would pick that out of the three in a heartbeat after the buff

550-600 DPS, incredibly fast and 82k ehp (110k with a tengu booster).
Lixia Saran
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-25 05:32:46 UTC
Destoya wrote:
new ASB vaga is incredibly powerful, I would pick that out of the three in a heartbeat after the buff

550-600 DPS, incredibly fast and 82k ehp (110k with a tengu booster).


Hummm... I'm curious how you attain those dps/ehp numbers. Could you post your proposed fit with unboosted stats?

Thanks :)
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2013-07-25 07:59:30 UTC
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[Vagabond, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x5


I suppose something like this; needs CA- set and 3% CPU to fit like this, works with no implants if you use a CPU rig instead of the thermal rig. Obviously this fit flies a lot differently than a standard 2x LSE warp disruptor vaga, closer to a super-fast cyclone than anything else really.

82k ehp is obtained by adding the ASB boost multiplied by resists to normal eft EHP... (9 * 1482.25 * 4.472 + 17213), numbers are with both asb and invul heated.

If you have your heart set on the old kiting vaga playstyle an interesting option is going with a large ASB and invuln, which gives you similar HP to 2x LSE but lets you fit 425mm's fairly easily for that slight rang/dps advantage. Not sure it's really better but should be fun to try it out
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-25 08:12:25 UTC
Sergant Steel wrote:


If anyone has baught abaddon21's wolf pvp guide, thats the tactis that i will mainly be using, untill i get his sfi guide.
Thanks



Rofl don't buy that ****.

You can get much better guides for free.
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-25 11:06:43 UTC
Diesel47 wrote:
Sergant Steel wrote:


If anyone has baught abaddon21's wolf pvp guide, thats the tactis that i will mainly be using, untill i get his sfi guide.
Thanks



Rofl don't buy that ****.

You can get much better guides for free.


that plus test server is your friend. Go there destroy a lot of ships you will end up better at the end

Ride hard, live with passion 
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-25 12:42:54 UTC
I thought the wolf was just a rifter but a bit better.

Art of Explosions
Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-07-27 07:05:06 UTC
Diesel47 wrote:
Sergant Steel wrote:


If anyone has baught abaddon21's wolf pvp guide, thats the tactis that i will mainly be using, untill i get his sfi guide.
Thanks



Rofl don't buy that ****.

You can get much better guides for free.

You're wrong ive never seen a better guide, and at only $10 my wolf guide has come in help so much! You really don't get what I have got from free guides...or if you do, kindly link them to me :DD

Steel
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#10 - 2013-07-28 13:36:25 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I thought the wolf was just a rifter but a bit better.

Lies. The wolf can pump out loads of DPS and field a much stronger tank

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-28 14:30:14 UTC
I checked out that abaddon guys site just now, his videos are hilarious (guys fly a sfi, and shield tank it, it totally does not do less dps/speed then a t1 stabber for a fraction of the price), very high comedy value.
Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-07-28 20:25:55 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I thought the wolf was just a rifter but a bit better.

Lies. The wolf can pump out loads of DPS and field a much stronger tank

So a rifter....but better?
Sergant Steel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-28 20:26:46 UTC
W0lf Crendraven wrote:
I checked out that abaddon guys site just now, his videos are hilarious (guys fly a sfi, and shield tank it, it totally does not do less dps/speed then a t1 stabber for a fraction of the price), very high comedy value.

It does alot more dps, and has more tank, im not here to talk about his vids tho.