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What is the hook?

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HongKongFooey X
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-25 06:45:52 UTC
So after a decade of hype, I decide to take the plunge into Hyperspace. Woohoo, I am gonna Pirate , Bounty hunt , mine and whatever my heart desires. But, most of all I am gonna fly my spaceship across the cosmos.

Fly?

No flying?

wtf?

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.

How do you play a space game like this where you do not actually fly the ships. All these cool awesome ships and no flying?
I have a radial to navigate my ship? No physics?

What is the hook? I am truly curious.

Please do not tell me to go back to WoW, I have never played it nor desire to.

Waiting patiently for STAR CITIZEN!!!!
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-07-25 06:51:27 UTC
HongKongFooey X wrote:
So after a decade of hype, I decide to take the plunge into Hyperspace. Woohoo, I am gonna Pirate , Bounty hunt , mine and whatever my heart desires. But, most of all I am gonna fly my spaceship across the cosmos.

Fly?

No flying?

wtf?

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.

How do you play a space game like this where you do not actually fly the ships. All these cool awesome ships and no flying?
I have a radial to navigate my ship? No physics?

What is the hook? I am truly curious.

Please do not tell me to go back to WoW, I have never played it nor desire to.

Waiting patiently for STAR CITIZEN!!!!


antoher sc treahd pffff

2 different games , eve players tend be older als teenagers and we dont want to flymanuly our spaceships , our eyes are too old for that en our fingers not so quick

it would turn eve in sort of arcade game , also with 1 sec server your joystick wouldnt work well , esp with big battles( there so other game that allowed big battles like eve) when tidi kicks in

SO no please not

sorry for bad english

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HongKongFooey X
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-07-25 06:53:54 UTC
Lugalbandak wrote:
HongKongFooey X wrote:
So after a decade of hype, I decide to take the plunge into Hyperspace. Woohoo, I am gonna Pirate , Bounty hunt , mine and whatever my heart desires. But, most of all I am gonna fly my spaceship across the cosmos.

Fly?

No flying?

wtf?

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.

How do you play a space game like this where you do not actually fly the ships. All these cool awesome ships and no flying?
I have a radial to navigate my ship? No physics?

What is the hook? I am truly curious.

Please do not tell me to go back to WoW, I have never played it nor desire to.

Waiting patiently for STAR CITIZEN!!!!


antoher sc treahd pffff

2 different games , eve players tend be older als teenagers and we dont want to flymanuly our spaceships , our eyes are too old for that en our fingers not so quick

it would turn eve in sort of arcade game , also with 1 sec server your joystick wouldnt work well , esp with big battles( there so other game that allowed big battles like eve) when tidi kicks in

SO no please not

sorry for bad english

HongKongFooey X
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-25 06:54:53 UTC
Thanks for the reply. I did not mean to turn this into an SC thread.

I truly tried EVE, I had no idea you do not manually fly the crafts.

I was disappointed that is all.
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-07-25 06:56:14 UTC
HongKongFooey X wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I did not mean to turn this into an SC thread.

I truly tried EVE, I had no idea you do not manually fly the crafts.

I was disappointed that is all.


Ok , i third person view i could dig tho just for the fun and screenshots.

But eve has many cool things to do , you just tried it?

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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-25 06:57:03 UTC
If you could fly and target manually someone would just create aimbot and we would have a new Counter-Strike.
Lord Battlestar
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Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
#7 - 2013-07-25 07:26:59 UTC
Umm you can manually fly it to an extent, just double click in the direction you want to go lol

I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart.

HongKongFooey X
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-07-25 07:36:13 UTC
I will be honest. I recently saw SC. I have been wanting to play a sci fi mmo for a while now. So, SC is not gonna be out for at least a year or more. So, my friend and I said, "Let's try EVE!!!"

So we did. My main reason for wanting to play a game like EVE or SC is for the PvP. I thought we would be flying the space craft manually. That is what I was looking forward to. I was thinking a cool space simulator with pvp and an economy plus all the juicy drama an mmo world brings. EVE has everything I described except for the Space Simulator part. So, I have to wait until another sci fi game to come out.

I was just curious to know what the hook is with EVE? Obviously it is a very healthy mmo when it comes to longevity and population. I am sure it has many good aspects to keep people interested. Unfortunately for me, I wanted a space simulator with pvp.

erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#9 - 2013-07-25 07:42:39 UTC
HongKongFooey X wrote:

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.



Same here. For diffferent reason, though.

I do not want to fly ship manually (real astronauts do not fly manually as well, inlest in emergency situations)

I took this game as a perfect (almost) space simulator. Very detailed and nicely designed world, ready to explore. With the opportunity of PvP in factional wars or in corporation vs corporation wars.

But some players made a stupid copy of Dark orbit out of it. PvP is all what they see here and I was expecting something more out of this game. If I want PvP I go pplay games like World of tanks, where I have PvP when I want and ready. Not when some 7 years old char with over bilion ISK in implantants and faction cruiser decide to cure his/her/it cripled selfesteem by shooting newbee ship that is not able to fight back. I was in the middle of security mission with over 20 drone tragets around me. So I could not see him comming in overview before it was too late. And he shoot me down in three shots, despite I still have had over 5 k effective hit points to that moment. No point to keep play game like this. Sore loosers like the one, who shot me in the back, made this game PvP just everywhere, high / low null sec... And to be PvP game Eve is not that fair
symolan
BamBam Inc.
#10 - 2013-07-25 07:55:10 UTC
erg cz wrote:
HongKongFooey X wrote:

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.




But some players made a stupid copy of Dark orbit out of it. PvP is all what they see here and I was expecting something more out of this game. If I want PvP I go pplay games like World of tanks, where I have PvP when I want and ready. Not when some 7 years old char with over bilion ISK in implantants and faction cruiser decide to cure his/her/it cripled selfesteem by shooting newbee ship that is not able to fight back. I was in the middle of security mission with over 20 drone tragets around me. So I could not see him comming in overview before it was too late. And he shoot me down in three shots, despite I still have had over 5 k effective hit points to that moment. No point to keep play game like this. Sore loosers like the one, who shot me in the back, made this game PvP just everywhere, high / low null sec... And to be PvP game Eve is not that fair


You got killed in low-sec.
In High I was never visited at a mission. You should try missioning in High-sec.

However, if you want to quit after your very first loss, I guess you will not be happy with Eve.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#11 - 2013-07-25 08:02:30 UTC
What? You want me to take your hand and show you how to have fun? Do it yourself, I'm not your nanny.

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-25 08:03:28 UTC
In EVE, you are the captain of your ship, not it's helm person. You command your ship. There is more to controlling your ship than it appears you have discovered judging from your OP. The hook in EVE is that the hook is made of hundreds if not thousands of hooks. The EVE experience is delightfully complex. You're missing out but that's cool. EVE isn't for everyone, as they say. I wish you enjoyment in whatever other game(s) you find. bye! o/
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-25 08:45:03 UTC
erg cz wrote:
HongKongFooey X wrote:

.....Disappointed, uninstalling now.



Same here. For diffferent reason, though.

I do not want to fly ship manually (real astronauts do not fly manually as well, inlest in emergency situations)

I took this game as a perfect (almost) space simulator. Very detailed and nicely designed world, ready to explore. With the opportunity of PvP in factional wars or in corporation vs corporation wars.

But some players made a stupid copy of Dark orbit out of it. PvP is all what they see here and I was expecting something more out of this game. If I want PvP I go pplay games like World of tanks, where I have PvP when I want and ready. Not when some 7 years old char with over bilion ISK in implantants and faction cruiser decide to cure his/her/it cripled selfesteem by shooting newbee ship that is not able to fight back. I was in the middle of security mission with over 20 drone tragets around me. So I could not see him comming in overview before it was too late. And he shoot me down in three shots, despite I still have had over 5 k effective hit points to that moment. No point to keep play game like this. Sore loosers like the one, who shot me in the back, made this game PvP just everywhere, high / low null sec... And to be PvP game Eve is not that fair


No eve is not fair , wich makes had a excellent "simulator" its its strenght , ist unforgiving , space is a hard cold place liek it should be.

And no , i have killed dozens of players that are way older with better ships & inplants , you have to think your stratagie , even if it does seems like only press f1 and w8 who is the winner , lots of things during a fight you can do to make it win.

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-07-25 08:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
For me the hook was the hunt. Finding creative ways to track down, trap & counter my opponent(s) is what keeps me coming back.

Edit for actual advice:

Also, try battleatar galactica. Its a manual flight, top down shooter in space. Its not very complex but it is free and when the devs don't suck...which they always do...its pretty fun. Good for log in, blow stuff up now, go to bed.
Bloemkoolsaus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-07-25 09:34:06 UTC
erg cz wrote:
But some players made a stupid copy of Dark orbit out of it. PvP is all what they see here and I was expecting something more out of this game. If I want PvP I go pplay games like World of tanks, where I have PvP when I want and ready. Not when some 7 years old char with over bilion ISK in implantants and faction cruiser decide to cure his/her/it cripled selfesteem by shooting newbee ship that is not able to fight back. I was in the middle of security mission with over 20 drone tragets around me. So I could not see him comming in overview before it was too late. And he shoot me down in three shots, despite I still have had over 5 k effective hit points to that moment. No point to keep play game like this. Sore loosers like the one, who shot me in the back, made this game PvP just everywhere, high / low null sec... And to be PvP game Eve is not that fair


You were not killed because that player was 7 years older, but because he used the game mechanics better.

Looks like you were in lowsec. There is no concord protection there, so anyone can attack you without repercussion. You know you are taking that risk when you jump into a lowsec system. If you're not ready to deal with that, don't go there. The eve-client even gives a warning about it if you are jumping into lowsec for the first time.

erg cz wrote:
So I could not see him comming in overview before it was too late

When he shows up in overview, it's to late. But you can see him coming waaaay before that. Since you are in a mission area, he will need to scan you down. This means you could have seen his combat-scanner probes on direction scanner, after that he needs to warp to your mission area wich would also have been visible on you're directional scanner way before he shows up on grid (and thus overview) giving you more then enough time to get out, especially if you are aligned at all times.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-25 10:01:01 UTC
Posting in yet another WHAAAHm, I want WASD controls rage post.

Sorry OP, EVE isn't that, you will no be missed.

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Norian Lonark
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-07-25 10:20:53 UTC
When I first installed EVE I found it pretty boring tbh and did not bother to play beyond a free trial.

Then after I got sick and tired of all the other theme park MMOs out there I thought I would give EVE another go. I got playing with EVE-UNI then moved to a corp and started learning the game, the industry, the PVP the risk, the player run economy, the single shard, CCP there is nothing else in the gaming world that compares.

I have now been playing for a few years, I still don't know how to do everything, still have a lot in game that I want to try and still enjoy logging in.

When you can see everything that EVE has, not having twitch controls isn't something so terrible. I would say give it another go try to find a corp to play with who can help show you the ropes and maybe you will get to see the appeal Smile

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#18 - 2013-07-25 10:51:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Not being a twitch game is the hook for me, I'm not that competitive in twitch games, my reactions are nowhere near as good as they were 25 years ago, neither is my eyesight.

In Eve there's a sizeable contingent of players who are semi retired or retired, there are those amongst us that are not quite that old, but in their 40's and 50's. The more RTS nature of Eves control systems allow them to compete on a level playing field with all the youngsters, while reaction time is still a factor, being able to keep your cool and plan ahead are just as important.

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Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#19 - 2013-07-25 13:04:36 UTC
Manually having to fly a spaceship all the time bores quickly. It is no more fun then driving a truck. By some simulation game if you want to pilot anything. Luckily Eve is not like that.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

Nox Solitudo
That Random Worker Ant Colony
#20 - 2013-07-25 13:09:40 UTC
+9 to OP for awesome trolling.
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