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CCP, Training and Unfair - complaint about CCP

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Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
#21 - 2013-07-25 00:12:01 UTC
I do not wish them to change it back - im happy for it to be the way that it is



I had level 4 on battlecruisers and destroyers

just give me skill points to inject equal to the value of 3/4 skill points for level for both skills - im happy to train 1 of the 4 skills to 5 to fill my end of the agreement.


thats all...nothing extra extraordinary
Jezza McWaffle
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#22 - 2013-07-25 00:14:44 UTC
There never was an agreement though. An agreement is a mutually ageed (usually) document which specifies how both parties may act.

They informed you of the changes to the BS and DS skills. They also informed you what you can fly before you can fly after.

Whether or not you took on board this information is your responsibility not theirs. You were given over 1 year which was ample time to train ever single BC skills from 0 - 5.

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#23 - 2013-07-25 00:15:58 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:
I do not wish them to change it back - im happy for it to be the way that it is



I had level 4 on battlecruisers and destroyers

just give me skill points to inject equal to the value of 3/4 skill points for level for both skills - im happy to train 1 of the 4 skills to 5 to fill my end of the agreement.


thats all...nothing extra extraordinary


So in short you want them to make an exception for you and none of the others who might have missed out?

They posted many warnings which you did not read. It is far too late. CCP has already given you your answer.
Akemi Kiyoura
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-07-25 00:20:55 UTC
I was going to sit down, hold your hand through the process and link you to all of the devblogs that were posted. Then I looked you up in game.

A 2010 player, and you had NEVER heard of the skill changes? You were 100% unaware? More importantly, you had never bothered to check the devblogs? I find that hard to believe. Train the skills and enjoy your queue.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-07-25 00:28:27 UTC
"Oh Mr. Police Officer, I do not always read traffic signs, why must I be penalized for not reading? If you penalize me for not reading I am going to take my car to another country and never drive in your country again!"

0/10 terribad troll
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-07-25 00:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Donbe Scurred
OP, I think Flakey's sig says it best: We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

As I have previously said, if you feel the need to write the word unfair in your post you are just wrong.
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#27 - 2013-07-25 00:54:06 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:
The eve community, of all communities, should realise that just because CCP says "no" does not necessarily means "no" and that decisions can be reversed or an agreement reached.

The legend of the Jita sieges have proven that.

But if no-one makes a stand then it is our own faults for allowing it to happen. In EVE you have to fight for what you want.


I like playing eve - especially since I have started playing incursions, but If CCP does not want customer satisfaction and $180 a year of my money (plus plex purchases I make with real money), for a simple database entry, then so be it.

I am just as happy to pay the same $500 a year into World of Tanks or the up coming World of Warships mmo, or even better, I am happy give the money away to my WolfPack members.

Being a wealthy person, I have those options and I am selecting to exercise that option: keep me satisfied as a customer or im leaving.

I am not trying to be rude, but think about it like this, World of Warcraft did the same thing to its customers, did not respect them and now they are losing millions of players, I hope CCP does not do the same thing.

The crux of the matter is this - I am not asking for anything extra ordinary, or demanding extra special circumstances, I am asking for CCP to fill the agreement that was in place - and the agreement was "destroyer and battlecruiser skills for x days"






go...... at the very lease we will be saved from threads of "i am wealthy and i should be granted special treatment"

Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-07-25 02:33:37 UTC
Just to point out the obvious, $500 is a drop in a bucket. Hell, I'd be willing to donate that to CCP. If you're so rich just buy PLEX, sell it in game for ISK and buy a beefed up toon. But if you want to measure epeens, I'm wealthy enough to dump so much PLEX into the game that you'd never be able to afford a new toon. And I'm pretty damn sure I'm not richest person playing EvE, but I'm certain I'm richer than you. I always have my yard sticks handy for epeen measuring. Wanna get your ruler out?
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-07-25 02:36:06 UTC
Poor guy I feel bad for you. Really really bad.
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-07-25 03:05:46 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:
Being a wealthy person, I have those options and I am selecting to exercise that option: keep me satisfied as a customer or im leaving.




Placed a bounty on your head so you will be feeling a WANTED person just like everyone else here.

Ahh, don't forget, I was the 1st to ask you stuff, right?

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-07-25 03:32:17 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:


I am happy to train one of those skills to level 5 - but I am very unhappy that 40+ days (rough calculation) has been added to my training que.

I have paid my money every month without issue, not in game currency


Don't take it personally. Get used to the fact that the game changes over time.

And 40 days is NOTHING where EVE is concerned. Seriously, get over it and get used to that, too.

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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#32 - 2013-07-25 03:49:34 UTC
Hello Mr. Shadowyfreak, I would like to correct you on your assessment of where you stand on the scale of "mad on the internet," you've clearly reached 3 already. I look forward to seeing you at 5 before this thread gets locked, that would actually make this new and interesting.
Xessej
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-07-25 06:14:56 UTC
What kind of crappy corp doesn't make sure all of its members knows about such a big change well before it happens?

I'm too lazy to check, is the op in a corp with just himself or something?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2013-07-25 07:28:32 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:


Yes I have lodged a ticket to get reimbursement but that was denied - with the excuse that it was announced in a blog somewhere months ago.




This is why it takes so long to get real problems seen to.
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#35 - 2013-07-25 07:47:40 UTC
Move along, these arnt the skills you're looking for.
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#36 - 2013-07-25 07:56:33 UTC
OP, you're not going to get individualised special treatment. Your sense of entitlement needs to be left in the Captain's Quarters.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-07-25 07:57:04 UTC
"DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER"

There was always going to be one wasnt there.

You dont have time to read blogs or read forums or read local char blabbing for months
about this yet you happy to pop up out of nowhere and do this

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please repeat 30 times for your sins

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Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#38 - 2013-07-25 08:02:37 UTC
Shadowyfreak wrote:
The eve community, of all communities, should realise that just because CCP says "no" does not necessarily means "no" and that decisions can be reversed or an agreement reached.

The legend of the Jita sieges have proven that.



Keep us updated on how your 1-man seige works out

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#39 - 2013-07-25 08:37:58 UTC
Andracin wrote:
"Oh Mr. Police Officer, I do not always read traffic signs, why must I be penalized for not reading? If you penalize me for not reading I am going to take my car to another country and never drive in your country again!"

0/10 terribad troll

Because he's rich.

Rich always get what they want.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#40 - 2013-07-25 08:38:47 UTC
Didn't you get the memo?

Cause the rest of us did, and trained our destroyer / BC skills to level 5. Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.