Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fit TE+TC script OP range and hit with pulses at beams range with better tracking and alpha/dps

As someone has already pointed out, HMLs aren't where they should be. Most people don't use them in either PvP or PvE.

They got nerfed to heavily me thinks.

Thing is most dudes will argue medium turrets are worst, and they're right but with a smaller distinction: Medium LR atm are total crap, HM's just crappy but can compete with those but after buffs? no way in hell I'm about to see HM's get arty alpha (over 6K) AND distance (140km with RF TS arty cane is easy to achieve)
HM's will need at least -15% rof to catch medium LR turrets or 20% dmg increase for a start then tweak if needed.

Also: tracking on hybrids thrown away is such a silly idea...

Saying HM's shouldn't get at least a small piece of this overall buff is like saying they're currently 30+% better (the size of the rail buff) than the other LR weapons. They're not as useless as other LR medium weapons but 30+% better? No way.

More like double the penalty on short range (gun) ammo.

I really dislike the tracking-malus on those weaponsystems. Their ranges are short enough to be - unless shieldtanked with TEs - operating at the end of your optimal anyways to compensate for tracking. I really doubt adding tracking malus across the field will add to their effective dps outside of a fleet/larger gang scenario that provides hard tackle in the supportwing.

Especially for a minority of artillerykiters, that is rather mean.






That's surprising. I always thought of the omen as the third great T1 Cruiser, settling behind the Vexor, followed by the caracal, followed by the Omen, followed by the Thorax. It's maybe cause I never flew it armortanked. Guess that way, it would be crap.

+1. @ original post.
The T2 ammo needs a revamp though, having just 2 for each weapon seems backwards, why not have T2 ammo as something even better than each of the normal T1 ammos (and better than faction T1, but same damage, not counting T2 ammo skill)?
So T2 gamma crystals, T2 multifrequency etc.
As a suggestion to how the T2 could be better; better cap bonuses would do nicely for T2 beam and pulse crystals. But a clean-up in the amount of turrets would be nice, there are too many tier-ish options. One should do one thing best, another should do another thing best. So Tachyons should be medium to long range damage dealers, another beam should be medium to long-range cap-stable damage dealer, another beam should be short-medium range damage dealers (then with more damage than tachyons, but the same tracking as tachyons), etc. Or different ones (these are just suggestions).
PS: Tachyons are epic weapons as is, but the ammo cap bonuses mean you can realistically only fight at ranges around 100km with large tachyons, all other ranges mean you can't cycle the gun enough times to kill anything. So a slight adjustment of the cap bonuses to reflect beam and pulse use would be nice (beams get less cap use at long to medium range, pulse get less cap use from medium to short range). A fun idea I wonder if it would work, is if it would be somehow possible to have cap penalties on pulses on long ranges, and cap penalties on beams on short ranges, but then have a more flat distribution of damage on all ranges. Don't know what the equivalent bonus for projectiles and hybrids would be though. At least an idea to store for later.

Tracking nerf on Rails is pretty big (even though it can be compensated by replacing falloff bonus on all ships that have it with a tracking bonus, but I don't expect that to happen), and +15% RoF increase seems nice only until you realize that Hybrids are the only weapon system consuming both cap and ammo. I would remove both of those changes but increase damage bonus to 20 or 25%.

I'm wondering what is the point of using medium rails on a ship that has a tracking bonus when your guns tracking penalty is working against you?

It actually forces blasters only on to gallente hulls and rails only on caldari, also a rof increase is a massive cap tax. Don't forget tracking penalties are actually a stealth nerf to dps over range as there is a big difference to paper range and actual range as there is with paper dps and actual dps.

I actually thought that medium rails were working really well and have found them to be excellent weapons if you use the right ammo at the right range.

Also heavy missiles should be buffed as they had their dps lowered by 10% last year to match medium guns now with a buff to the afore mentioned medium guns dps and rate of fire it's high time the HM nerf was reversed.

The thing is, Scorch is just plain OP. I have no clue how to fix it without making it Conflagration clone, but as long as that Crystal allows me to shoot at beam ranges, I'm going to fit pulses.

Now that I think about it, does anyone use medium or small gleam? I've only ever used it for POS shooting...