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[Closed] - [Somali UNI] Don´t be a fool, join the school
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BadCo NZ
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#161 - 2013-07-17 08:26:47 UTC
Sure i will ONCE u give me my pocket money.
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
#162 - 2013-07-18 22:16:23 UTC
Back to the top for this school!

"It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus."

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StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#163 - 2013-07-23 14:23:56 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
It´s turing a bit to silent in here...

*Whipcrack*

EDIT:

After i returned i found the camp beeimg more or less empty and left back. I have to figure out what to do now.
If you´re looking for such a service for now please contact culo duro for a pvp school corp.

My true stories
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#164 - 2013-07-24 06:55:54 UTC  |  Edited by: StoneCold
I now know what happened. I'm just not sure if it happened because of missinformation or just plain backstabbing.
:Meh: I realy don't care at the moment.

Recruitment / school service is on hold.

My true stories
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#165 - 2013-07-24 16:07:05 UTC
Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#166 - 2013-07-24 16:26:06 UTC
Zemo Walden wrote:
Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as.


Yes because new players fly T3's and faction/t2 Battleships.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
#167 - 2013-07-24 16:27:42 UTC
After all of the changes I've been through I still support you all.

If you need anything shoot me a message

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Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#168 - 2013-07-24 16:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Zemo Walden
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Zemo Walden wrote:
Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as.


Yes because new players fly T3's and faction/t2 Battleships.


Well when I was in a new player corp Somali Coast Guard BootCamp started a war against us, we were all new players. Two specific members were tracking me down and gate sitting when I was running level 2 missions in a crap very basic Caracal. They also took out another member of the corp and gate camped him too. I got away from the drone camping which couldn't lock me but then 5 ppl showed up on the gate. So yes there are certain members who are only targeting new players, even new players in basic Cruisers = newbie bashing corp in my understanding. Also went to move my Drake to Jita and had the same 2v1 I was pwning them then all of a sudden 5 more turned up. Seems to be the same two people who have now moved to The Bootcamp corp. The only wars started by you were against new player corps with low tax rates which really shows us all what you are about.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#169 - 2013-07-24 17:33:52 UTC
Im sure...

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#170 - 2013-07-24 17:42:39 UTC
Look at the war history, people aren't stupid... Here a couple on the list:

Skull Bearers = New Player corp with low tax rate
Financial Freedom Inc = New Player corp with low tax rate
Pro Synergy = New Player Salvaging corp that don't even do PvP
Miners in Posession = New player mining corp


I could go on all day, the list of previous wars speaks for itself.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2013-07-24 18:34:46 UTC
Zemo Walden wrote:
which really shows us all what you are about.


What? You mean like training NEW PLAYERS to do PVP in hi-sec?

Okay then, just so we're clear...

Bootcamp is for people new to PVP, and they were plenty of corps that aren't newbies and plenty of victims that were high SP veterans in shiny ships that certainly knew what they were doing.

You could take an opportunity to join them / get help / read guides and learn or fight back instead of autopiloting around under war and crying about it. Oh and not once were you ever 10v1 (except whilst getting ganked 18v1 by Pandemic Legion in lowsec). You'd think a corp with that many losses in low sec would know what PVP was.

Pro Synergy - 2011
Miners in Possession - 2007
Financial Freedom Inc - 2012
All older and with more members than SCGBC.

yeah... total newbies. You conveniently miss out all the MERC corps that wardecced or allied onto target corps too. They killed Booties plenty. Nullsec training corps, Lowsec PVP corps with lots of faction war friends, Booties wardecced them all.



Keep poking Kane. See what happens...
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#172 - 2013-07-24 18:46:14 UTC
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Zemo Walden wrote:
which really shows us all what you are about.


What? You mean like training NEW PLAYERS to do PVP in hi-sec?

Okay then, just so we're clear...

Bootcamp is for people new to PVP, and they were plenty of corps that aren't newbies and plenty of victims that were high SP veterans in shiny ships that certainly knew what they were doing.

You could take an opportunity to join them / get help / read guides and learn or fight back instead of autopiloting around under war and crying about it. Oh and not once were you ever 10v1 (except whilst getting ganked 18v1 by Pandemic Legion in lowsec). You'd think a corp with that many losses in low sec would know what PVP was.

Pro Synergy - 2011
Miners in Possession - 2007
Financial Freedom Inc - 2012
All older and with more members than SCGBC.

yeah... total newbies. You conveniently miss out all the MERC corps that wardecced or allied onto target corps too. They killed Booties plenty. Nullsec training corps, Lowsec PVP corps with lots of faction war friends, Booties wardecced them all.



Keep poking Kane. See what happens...


Well that's funny because when I was in my Drake I was killing one guy when it was 2v1, then all of a sudden at least 5 came through the gate to help them, only fought back because I had no other option. Not all new players fly around with warp scramblers and anti-scramblers when doing level 2 missions..... Also was not auto-piloting I never auto pilot in eve especially when wars are on. I never targeted anyone either I have the combat logs to prove that the BootCamp IS targeting new players. Not just Battleships as you seem to claim, was taken out in a Caracal 3v1 and a rookie ship 2v1.

Trying to play the whole "we were at war with others" is just dumb too, the only wars from good corps were from those warring you not the other way around.

The low sec kill was while I was in a hauler doing a distribution mission and I don't really care about that I know it was a diff corp all together.
MyMain
Doomheim
#173 - 2013-07-24 18:51:52 UTC
http://zkillboard.com/detail/31938585/

I was totally owning them! Then all of a sudden there was like 7 of them!
Royd Rage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#174 - 2013-07-24 18:54:01 UTC
Zemo Walden wrote:
Problem is when corps specifically target new player corps... that's what happened. Somali Coast Guard BootCamp was specifically targeting new players - not players who are experienced. 10v1 versus new players is always going to give a corp a bad rep... Personally I think those corps that only ever target new player corps are far worse than pirate corps that sit low sec gates. No skill in targeting new player corps constantly - simple as.


You play PVEnvironment, we play PVPlayer.

We sometimes fight solo, sometimes in groups.
You sometimes mission solo, sometimes in groups (or are all PVEers always solo... and why?)

You are a newbie, we are newbies too. Hence the "Bootcamp".

We learn how to find you, you should learn how to avoid us.

The only way we earn ISK by looting your ships and getting surrender offers, you earn ISK by doing missions. Each of us makes money his own way.

So what seems to be the problem?
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2013-07-24 18:55:34 UTC
Zemo Walden wrote:
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Zemo Walden wrote:
which really shows us all what you are about.


What? You mean like training NEW PLAYERS to do PVP in hi-sec?

Okay then, just so we're clear...

Bootcamp is for people new to PVP, and they were plenty of corps that aren't newbies and plenty of victims that were high SP veterans in shiny ships that certainly knew what they were doing.

You could take an opportunity to join them / get help / read guides and learn or fight back instead of autopiloting around under war and crying about it. Oh and not once were you ever 10v1 (except whilst getting ganked 18v1 by Pandemic Legion in lowsec). You'd think a corp with that many losses in low sec would know what PVP was.

Pro Synergy - 2011
Miners in Possession - 2007
Financial Freedom Inc - 2012
All older and with more members than SCGBC.

yeah... total newbies. You conveniently miss out all the MERC corps that wardecced or allied onto target corps too. They killed Booties plenty. Nullsec training corps, Lowsec PVP corps with lots of faction war friends, Booties wardecced them all.



Keep poking Kane. See what happens...


Well that's funny because when I was in my Drake I was killing one guy when it was 2v1, then all of a sudden at least 5 came through the gate to help them, only fought back because I had no other option. Not all new players fly around with warp scramblers and anti-scramblers when doing level 2 missions..... Also was not auto-piloting I never auto pilot in eve especially when wars are on. I never targeted anyone either I have the combat logs to prove that the BootCamp IS targeting new players. Not just Battleships as you seem to claim, was taken out in a Caracal 3v1 and a rookie ship 2v1.

Trying to play the whole "we were at war with others" is just dumb too, the only wars from good corps were from those warring you not the other way around.

The low sec kill was while I was in a hauler doing a distribution mission and I don't really care about that I know it was a diff corp all together.


This is an error from your corp, not the bootcamps fault.

Your corp chose to not inform on how you should act during a war, and they didn't setup fleets to fight us back.
Also there's only one persons fault for getting blown up, and that's you.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#176 - 2013-07-24 18:57:50 UTC
The problem is when Corps like this specifically target new players and can't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1. Gate camping out an area to take out a new player cruiser with 2 people is a joke IMO and any corp that does it deserves what comes back on it.
Royd Rage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#177 - 2013-07-24 19:11:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Royd Rage
Zemo Walden wrote:
The problem is when Corps like this specifically target new players and can't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1. Gate camping out an area to take out a new player cruiser with 2 people is a joke IMO and any corp that does it deserves what comes back on it.


I repeat, most of us are new players as well. Who should we target then, 2003 players?

Gate camping is as hard and involves the same tools as avoiding gate camps.

P.S:

http://zkillboard.com/detail/31938585/

Zemo Walden: July 2011
VS
Royd Rage: April 2013
Rise Altol: February 2013
Razer Aideron: January 2013 (and he came at the very very end of the fight)

...
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#178 - 2013-07-24 19:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Zemo Walden
Royd Rage wrote:
Zemo Walden wrote:
The problem is when Corps like this specifically target new players and can't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1. Gate camping out an area to take out a new player cruiser with 2 people is a joke IMO and any corp that does it deserves what comes back on it.


I repeat, most of us are new players as well. Who should we target then, 2003 players?

Gate camping is as hard and involves the same tools as avoiding gate camps.

P.S:

Zemo Walden: July 2011
VS
Royd Rage: April 2013
Rise Altol: February 2013
Razer Aideron: January 2013 (and he came at the very very end of the fight)

...


LOL you think that char creation date means anything? I created this character years ago and only just started playing recently with a promotion. So stating dates is plain stupid, people have breaks too from eve, dates mean nothing. They don't mean a player is old (or their skills are trained very high).
Aria Ta'Rohk
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#179 - 2013-07-24 19:20:48 UTC
I fully endorse this product and service. Keep up the awesome work guys.

I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears
Zemo Walden
Mortal Retribution
#180 - 2013-07-24 19:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zemo Walden
It's no problem anyway, just thought that I would point a few things out, when I get back to my old alliance corp and I've trained all my PvP skills (which I didn't even need 2v1 *cough*) the tables will turn. Big smile if you think you can take out 2011 players who have full skills from then - think again. You couldn't even fight 2v1 let alone 1v1 vs a 16 day character.