Warfare & Tactics

lol

exploit of killing WTs?

i'm surprised people are okay with this.

I agree that it makes sense to fix this.

However, I don't really care that much. People running missions generally aren't interested in pvping while doing so. Additionally - part of our "plex farmer discouragement program" includes educating farmers about how to run missions for more LP/hour. So the more of the enemy that runs FW missions, the less that plex our home systems.

never knew missioning was considered a problem ever

Mission Rats are Pirates pretending to be Amarian. We've figured it out, it is all a conspiracy - similar to the Gallentean dread lock fetish.

Complaints of fw mission farmers used to be pretty common before faction war sov also became fwarmville. One proposal even suggested something like fw mission runners would need to gain some vp (from running plexes) before they could cash in their lp or run missions. It may sound silly now but running plexes used to be considered much more of a pvp activity than missions.

Lots of people even thought that simply by adding consequences, plexing would be made into even more of a pvp activity.






I'm not sure why you can't just have them not aggress players in a friendly militia that also have good personal standings with the militia/faction. I think killing the rats hurts your standing with the militia and or faction so the typical awoxer solution of joining a corp with others of high standing to be in fw won't work.

IMO fw missions were a good form of pve in fw. It used to be the case that you could get chased out of missions by people wandering around. They didn't need to give the mission runners even more protection by having the rats attack their own militia mates. They might still be ok I haven't run them in a while.


But yes I agree this form of low sec mission should be expanded to other npc corps. Its a good format for low sec mission running.

thats exactly how we had it. Just search for "standing tanking" there should be enough threads in the post inferno timeframe. What you saw where fleets of trail account pods flying through systems, opening missions and waiting at the accel gate to self destruct or for someone killing them. A random neutral char killed the mission objective without npc agro and minimal standing implications.

Others just swaped from one militia to the other using only one char and had always positive standing with the right one so that NPCs never agressed them.

I wasn't aware of this.

But it would seem to me that if you are both 1) a member of the friendly militia and 2)have personal high standings with them, you shoudl not be shot by your own militia.

I thought the standing implications of shooting your own militia in a mission were a bit more than minimal, but if they were not, then that is the fix. I realize they may be minimal for plex rats as people can make mistakes. But if you shoot the objective in a mission against your own militia there is no mistake happening.

Note that lowering your standings with tribal does not necessarilly increase your standings with 24th so switching won't work.

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