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"What relevance does it have, regarding who paid for the Plex?"
-It's very relevant, if no player spent RL money on Plex, CCP would not receive money from this system nor players would be able to buy the Plex with ingame ISK.

"They may have traded ISK for it, but that still didn't come for free.
I'm have a feeling you think the minerals you mine yourself, are also free. Here's a clue, they are not."
-Actually, they are. Like shooting NPCs, mining creates a value out from the environment to that player. In both cases the player spent time in those activities, but it was his time, CCP didn't receive any real money from that player if he paid the Plex with ingame ISK.

"It's duplication, which is already a part of the Eve UI."
-Its absolutely NOT part of the EVE UI to duplicate commands to other game clients !

"Why shouldn't I defend it?"
-I have no idea whatsoever why anyone should defend such "augmented" type of gameplay.

"Please show me proof, that you gain items at a more accelerated rate than normal game play. I'm sure CCP would also like to see this."
-By automatically synchronizing the fire trough multiple clients a ISboxer is more efficient than any human fleet, and that's exactly the point for using this program, otherwise no one would use it.

"They have to be at the PC, in order for it to work."
-It doesn't matter if you go AFK or not, its still gives you an unfair advantage against the players that don't use it.

Ellen,

You are a terrible troll.

I've used ISBOXER to Mine ICE in the past (which I no longer do after update)... it was effective and stable... I can vouch for it's use. it's only $50. a year.

I used the ISK to buy cooler ships, characters, etc....


I tried to use it on missions (which I actually play and enjoy) and I just uninstalled it as it was just too much work and too much clicking. I tested how quickly I got the mission done with 4 ships and it was maybe a minute faster then with just my Two Box norm.

I think EVE in general is a multi-account game and everyone has accepted it, or at least understands it. ISBoxer made it easy to control those accounts.

I completely get the idea that it may seem unfair, and it is IMO if you're looking for a good PVP matchup.... which EVERYONE in here shot down....... meanies!!! (My Arena Idea) .. You are not going to EVER find it in EVE... and i've accepted it.

Because some folks see ISboxer as automation, and gives an unfair advantage?

You need proof that some people see it as automation? You do understand the phrase right, "Some folks see" ? it means some people have an opinion.

If you can't comprehend that, not much I can do for ya.

I do not think Isboxer is automation.

I do not think sending keystrokes across multi clients is automation.

However, for a game that prides itself on sandbox style always on PvP in all forms ( market, ships, mining ) is seems odd that CCP would allow the use of a paid 3rd party application that lets one person control many accounts.

The argument about the accelerated gaining of ISK holds true on the $ / account level but when there are 20+ players funneling money to one account, THAT account breaks that spirit of the EULA.

This could be argued endlessly but the fact is having more that 5 accounts putting money into only one is ridiculous and will continue to drive people away from the game.

Want 50 people to give you money for nothing? Start a cult.

EDIT:

Oh and the 'accelerated rate' can easily be measured by the time it takes to alt-tab from client to client.

What about ISboxing Trial accounts to build destroyer mobs?

Is that legit?

They are not paying for the extra DPS. so they are getting it for free.

Every 10 days or so you can spawn a new blob if you want to get fancy and do invites you can have that blob for 10 days at a time.

Free gmail account.
Send invites
Recieve invites
start and train accounts
Blaster boat destroyer DPS Drones a few days later

Pick the area's highest value targets
Collect loot.

I dunno is that legit?

80 accounts, 80 ice. However many players behind those accounts, it is still 80 accounts.

I do agree that if EVE was free to play, and anyone could start a ton of accounts, anything that gave even a 10% edge by allowing some automation would generate threads like these, and even then, I would not be vocal about getting it "banned".

If someone was to enter the CCP tournament with only 1 player, and that player controlled 8 ships, I don't see how they would beat any team that had 8 individual players for example, and If they in fact DID manage to do so and could repeat the performance, to me that would point more to the fact that the EVE combat mechanics might be lacking, and not that ISBoxer is the problem.

ISBoxer offers added flexibility in running multiple EVE accounts, which CCP already tells us is perfectly fine. If you guys really think it makes that flexibility "overpowered" then I suggest you ask CCP to make the EVE activities more active and engaging, and use of what you call "keypress broadcast" would become unusable.

If you went to the shop, bought wood and nails and built a table on your own, would that make the table have equal value as purchased components or would there be an added cost for your spending time to assemble it?

For everything in EVE you do, there is a price. Time sink. And for every month of having ability to time sink stuff, you need to pay the piper.

Personally, I don't use ISBoxer, but I'm not against it. I 7-box the old fashioned way. But then, those 7 accounts aren't necessarily all doing the same thing. Some could be boosting, mining, hauling, doing missions or ratting/anomalies all at the same time as doing PI, manufacturing, overseeing jobs or scouting for pvp targets.

I guess someone could say I have an unfair advantage over others, since I can see hostiles entering my system and can get safe on time.