Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi,

This is an idea that i thought up a few days ago and i decided i'd drop it in here so you can all flame me and tell me how out of touch with EVE I am.

anyway here goes:

The basic premiss of this is to add further specalistion into ships via skills that effect individual hull types. (put this here so you don;t even need to bother reading the rest if you don't want, just say i'm terrible and move on).

In my mind this effect an added ship bonus that would give a relatively small boost to a ships power, not something as impactful as % dmg, something more along the lines of % total cap, base speed, sig, agaility etc etc.
The idea behind this is that some people heavily specalise in certain ships, and for each current ship there is a skill cap, usually this cap is not massively greater than what would be considered a needed skill level to make good use of the ship. The only real exception to this would be weapon specalisation.

Similarly to weapon specs, the skills would be fairly high ranked so that it would only really appeal to the pilots that primarily fly that Hull whilst at the same time giving them enough of a boost that 1 vs 1 with someone without the skill they should have a slight advantage.

To point out I am aware of the following potential issues:
- it would be a significant amount of work considering the number of hulls currently in game
- ensuring balance was maintained could be an issue
- balancing effectiveness of the bonus agasinst it being worthwhile may prove difficult.

Personally I think this would be a cool addition to the game, where the people that choose to focus on a role within game can allow their ship to perfom better than the average pilot as a mark of their dedication to it. Also it would add so many skills and as such so much total train time it would get people away from the current issues of characters that are maxed in all sub cap skills for example.

Anywho, feel free to pick holes.

Monk.

Sort of but not for a specific attribute, that would be based on the hull so that it would maintain relevance.

so for example, a sig reduction bonus would be useful for the condor hull. (would effect condor, raptor, crow)
but for something like an abaddon this would be meaningless, so something like total cap would be more useful.

From my point of view i'm 3 years behind the earliest players and have alot of missed sp, I choose not to fly caps on this character and as a result the amount of skills that can effect the ships i fly is dwindling. For those with more SP than me, they are inevitably going to come towards a point where there are no more sub cap skills to train.

It gives those with very high SP a new timesink on skills. and for those who want to excell in a role it would raise the SP cap on the current hulls which i don't think would be a bad thing at all.

^posted a minute before me

OHHH, I get it, I get now

So youre saying something like

Thorax Specialization lv1
Scimitar Specialization lvl2
etc...

That's ACTUALLY not too bad an idea.

**I do have my concerns also

For sits and gigs

lets say there were a Cynabal spec skill that increased damage

You would have to do a damage increase % instead of rate of fire % because things could get out of hand

Same thing with Macherial


EDIT** Would this also mean vindy pilots would have it better since they can use the Mega spec skill as a base hull. Or are we throwing out all the faction ships from the equation?

It would seem a fair middle ground would be to focus on speed or sig bonuses for combat ships and cap/rig requirement bonuses for attack ships

One scenario is the Scorpion
You cant really boost its damage or tank abilities because that would make the Rattlesnake a monster.
A sig reduction would be ok though since it is a shield boosting platform

As for other ships that use armor a speed bonus would be an good option.

Its definitely a give or take idea that would need a lot of testing to be feasible. I like it though

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I truely hope not.

If they go down the path you suggest, it leads to broad ranging skills, which despite being called specalisation essentially become just another must have skill becasue they effect so many ships.

What I'd like to see and my idea promotes, is players maxing what they love to fly, rather than currently the focus just towards maxing everything.

I have no issue with the 'lines' we're using now, i think it gives them a more defined platform for balancing. I just don't think it's the right place to add specalisation really.

Honestly, I like this idea, but I'd rather see it as something akin to the EVE equivalent of post-cap leveling in other MMOs like Rift with Planar Advancement and Everquest with Alternative Advancement. Within that context these would need to be high-ranking skills with bonuses around 1% per level. I would also rather see this as truly hull specific and not hull class specific so that "Condor Specialization" is just for condors and not crows and raptors as well.

Small bonuses, long training times, hull exclusivity, and high costs would, for all intents and purposes, make them skills that are interesting only to people who truly have nothing better to train and are dedicated to flying only a few ships. From my perspective, at least right now, that would be a solid way of making sure that these don't become "must have" skills for EVE at large.

No. If you want to be more effective use booster drugs and links. Eve is skill > SP. You are trying to make SP make up for a lack of skill.

You want to get all the core support skills up to 4/5 and after that specialization is basically just getting ship type 4/5 and getting t2 weapons.

You're just taking the whole concept of skilling into a ship and making it take longer, so no.

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