EVE General Discussion

If I wasn't already the CEO of the best corp in EVE, I would totally apply to yours.

Mr Epeen

so what is so bad about the rebalancing? because i am well not a very old player 2,5 years almost but defo not new and i am pretty content with rebalancing so far.

High SP characters aren't forced into using caps. You too can fly a crusier or frigate.

in before the loch?

Except the higher SP characters would be able to load out the T1 frigate better (much better) than a newbie character. Unless those high SP ones are missing basic skills in favour of getting into more advanced ships. I also dislike people that do that, what a huge waste of time.

If it's alcoholic, someone will still drink it.

Once you have Frig 5 - T2 guns, tank and support skills what else is there?


So after maybe 10mil sp what advantage is there to the players who invested isk into better ships/fits if T1 ships are now better than faction ships (Frigates are a great example) ?

The high sp players don't 'magically' have Frigates trained to 11.

Ima just take a minute here to laugh at people who think battleships like the dominix are bad because they've been nerfed to the point of being useless and also the guy who thinks the incursus is overpowered because the SAAR will rep less than a MASB as well as cap you out in under a minute.

Not like a slicer can kite you to death, or a hookbill can outbrawl you or a condor can shut you down completely a d stay way out of your range or anything like that.

The balancing on some ships sucks but if you think there are only a handful of viable ships in game the problem might be you

Can I apply please?

I don't play dust, so this will about EVE.

It will help if you look at it from a developer's point of view. When they decide to do any sort of change it is based on numbers and stats. It is not (usually at least) based on a whim, personal biases towards ship types, or just f ******* their playerbase. rightly so sometimes you can make wrong assumptions from these numbers and do something wrong.

Now for the examples:

When they nerfed heavy missiles, they didn't just do it because some people felt it was overpowered, but they did it because heavy missiles were by far the top killers of pvp ships. So their heavy usage means they are overpowered and need to be brought in line with other weapon systems. Does that mean that some niche role of heavy missiles got an undeserved nerf? maybe (such as site runners), but overall the change will usually bring more "balance" to the game.

Now to the change of the t1 cruisers and frigates. Now rightly so they got buffed, but still t2 can easily beat t1 any day of the week (assuming similar real life pilot skills). But now instead of t2 trumping t1 in a hilarious way, t1 stands a chance if a certain gang does it right. The change of t1 cruisers and frigates didn't come at a whim, the numbers showed that in any pvp encounter they were horribly under powered. Before the change no serious pilot flew t1 frigates or cruisers because they were simply so weak, and that is (in my humble opinion unbalanced). From personal experience I can tell you now we fly moa's, vexors. In null caracels are finally a real doctrine. It doesn't matter how you feel, what matters is the numbers, and when any kind of ship is being used relatively less than its counterparts, then it is under powered. That is why the zealot didn't changed much and the eagle got a huge buff, people actually use zealots and nobody used eagles. It is all about the usage number and stats.

Don't get me wrong they can still **** it up and over nerf or over buff something, but from the current meta you can see a wider and healthier array of ship usages, which means that the balance was a great success.

Now your argument that higher skill characters should be better at everything (that is what I took from it anyways) is also wrong. EVE developers have always been stressing that if you specialize you will always be able to reach the same effectiveness of a higher skilled player . More skill points will give you more options but will not give you a permanent advantage over newer players, and that is a very good game mechanic (imo).

Some people will always get hurt with any change in the game, but what is most important is the overall health and balance of the game, and the game is definitely healthier and more balanced than a year ago.