EVE General Discussion

It only really says that bounty payouts increased because null was given more sources for bounties. It doesn't say anything about the proportions or the “lion share” of anything.

Plenty of people said a lot about how broken the risk vs. reward was, especially for missions. In fact, that was the reason people were telling miners to do missions instead: far more reward for no additional risk.

He doesn't. He just recognises it as a waste of time for nullseccers when there are plenty of highseccers who will do the job. Why waste manpower in null on something that is vastly less efficient than just buying it from high, where the effort and costs are zero?

We have been calling for null industry to be fixed for years now.

What should really grind your gears is that when I meet a new player who wants help in NPC corps, I bring him under my wing and teach him to be a career high-sec miner with all my other high-sec mining buddies.

We teach him things like how to fit a proper tank so he's never ganked, how to avoid scams, and how to avoid ever going to low-sec for any reason at all.

Then that means one more player who lives the hi-sec lifestyle and enjoys it. We've even recruited people off teamspeak servers who have never played EVE until we gave them a buddy code.

You want to grind them harder, teach them to roll an alt in another slot, train up for gank dessies or bombers, and make incursions into nullsec. Not to live there, not to be cannon fodder, but to mix things up a bit and poke the pokers back.

Oh NOES!!!11eleventy! Not T-1 dessies!

You do realize that people would more likely thank you than feel like you're grinding their gears, right?

"hi-sec has a cushy number they don't want spoiled"

see we can all do it!

It worked for the mining barge buffs.....

Or was it the exit polls of people saying they quit because they lost a ship which happened to be a mining barge?

Really, it could be just they were planning changes anyways to redo the way mining barges worked.

Even if it was the complaints on the forums, it means CCP cares more about high-sec than null. Because they haven't really given you much other than more ore lately now have they?

Hell, they could double your bounties now just to help out, but why haven't they? They could simply increase capacity on stations that do exist in null sec for industry purposes.

Yet those changes are no where to be seen.

Why? Why lord why? We must post more on the forums!

Maybe the reason they haven't nerfed hi-sec or buffed null-sec is because it would break the game.

I mean things seem to work mostly. Null has its wars that costs up to hundreds of billions. Surely they aren't going broke anytime soon. People in high seem to be doing just fine. The complaints are from a vocal minority of null sec. I mean no one from null is organizing a boycott of EVE if CCP doesn't change the game.

Why don't you do that? Threaten to quit unless CCP does something. Get a petition of all the Null Sec players. Maybe they will change things then if everyone in Null threatens to quit.

And if you do threaten to quit... Can I have your stuff?

Really, everyone knows if no changes are made you'll keep playing.

Hell, I'd probably keep playing if they nerfed hi-sec. Really I don't care. I make more than enough money. Even if I was dead poor I'd still play in hi-sec no matter what. I just like pointing out that you are pretty funny with the way you keep having to post to justify more money in your pockets.

Wow, some of us who liked to be hard to kill hated mining ships which had the tank of a wet paper bag, I tanked mine and still couldn't get a good tank, and I felt it was frankly quite stupid to have a ship that cost so much that could be killed by a single destroyer and the pilot podded too with a tank fitted. So CCP in the end did the right thing, now people who don't fit a tank die to small numbers of destroyers, and those of us that tank laugh at them dying and know that to get a kill the gankers have to work on it, which is why so many gank industrials. Before the changes it was like taking candy from a baby and to be blunt was so easy it was silly.

I like a challenge in a game, other people like easy no effort kills and mining barges before these changes were the most easy kills you could get in game. The game is a lot better for it and teh tanks are about right, by the way I mine in a Skiff, a fully tanked one...