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What to do?

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High Warlord Carebear
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-23 18:00:17 UTC
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.
Rath Blazit
Pilots of Eve
#2 - 2013-07-23 18:24:13 UTC
Try Planetary Interaction in Low Sec.
Jayor Robb
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-23 18:49:52 UTC
Not sure how new you are but the missions have been ok for me so far.

I'm brand-spanking new still on trial and just finished the Epic arc. L2 security missions seem to be about 700K (completion plus bonus), plus bounties, plus salvaging and seem like theyre taking me about 10 minutes each.

I know thats not a ton, but I've lose a few ships trying to solo everything and its still gotten me up to around 25MM isk.

I'm thinking chances are good you're looking for much more than that though. Lol

You've been playing EvE for 6 years and gate camping is the best idea you can come up with? XD

Beef Hammer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-23 18:55:04 UTC
High Warlord Carebear wrote:
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.



Tell that to those of us that make billions a month off it.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-07-23 19:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
exploration is great profit if you ever take the, actually very minimal, risk of doing it in low/null.

My friend just started playing eve again and he managed to almost make enough for a plex in 5 days exploration (I helped him out the last 100mil).

He is under 1 month old.
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#6 - 2013-07-23 19:17:19 UTC
It seems you're trying too desperatly to pay the game by plex and not enjoying it

Missions are ok, I've started lvl 3 just recently and the income is good enough for now. Didn't take too long as well.

But if you want to raise your wallet quickly, go for exploration. It pays a good money and you don't need uber expensive fits or high skills to do it. Just study how to travel into low/null sec or you will be getting caught by pirates frequently.
Atkins Friendly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-23 19:24:25 UTC
Mission make money and its really isnt that hard to get to lvl 4.. maybe a few weeks..

as far as making money, i started mission running, now i moved onto Incursions. Still PVE and make close to 70-90mil / hour.

You need skills and the right equiptment to get into incursions (maybe 3 months worth of skills?) but once you're able to do them it pretty much pays for everything else you want to do in eve.

Just my opinion, but you must find your own path to take to make millions.

LOL try scamming people ;)
Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-23 20:28:22 UTC
If money wasn't a problem for you in game, what do you want to do? Its really that simple. If you are having a hard time now paying for what you want to do, then you are probably overextending yourself.

I don't want that to sound patronizing, but its seriously true, especially if you are losing expensive ships. Fly cheaper and fly smarter. For example, take Fleet PvP...You can participate and be effective in a frigate costing 2-4 mil each (Even cheaper if you figure out a fit you like and set up buy orders). Mining in high sec can bring in 10 mil in a couple of hours.

Or you could go out in a 15mil isk cruiser and get popped in the first engagement. 15mil isn't a lot to someone that has a couple of hundred mil isk, but to someone that has 40 or 50 mil isk, its a whole lot.
Ben Cashman
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-07-23 21:59:38 UTC
If your argument for not wanting to do something is because "It takes too long" then this game probably isn't for you.
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#10 - 2013-07-23 23:26:41 UTC
High Warlord Carebear wrote:
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.


uninstall Eve online, i hear WoW is very cool...

can i have your stuff?

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]

ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2013-07-23 23:50:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Flidais Asagiri
Greetings

Please no trolling in a new player post. it is against the rules and it is truly not very helpful to an honest attempt at learning to make isk. To the OP, you might try one of the more specific forums as to isk generation, they tend to be more topic focused than the general forums.

On On

ISD Flidais Asagiri Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2013-07-24 00:08:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
High Warlord Carebear wrote:
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.

Missions are repetitive, but they can provide a goodly amount of ISK to do other things with. If you find you get bored with missions run incursions. Alternatively down size your mission ship, you can run 4's in a battlecruiser fairly easily, for a challenge try a non T3 cruiser. (I accept no responsibility for incidents involving explosive decompression or acts of violence)

Mining can be profitable in a few hours with under 30 mill invested in a ship and equipment, a fitted Procuror will set you back about that, and in highsec will pay for itself in about 3 hours if you hit Scordite or the ore anomaly sites. A Retriever will take a little longer, and a Mackinaw a lot longer.

Exploration is profitable if you're prepared to take some risks, it's good in lowsec and nullsec, and if you're out there, you may as well use the planets for PI because they're a lot better than the highsec ones.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#13 - 2013-07-24 00:33:01 UTC
High Warlord Carebear wrote:
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.


Despite the ISD admonish ions, I agree that if you are impatient, Eve is likely not the game for you.

I made my ISK initially by mining and trading. Both of those provide good ISK with a bit of effort and perseverance. Honestly, very shortly the problem won't be ISK but skills. I can buy anything in the game that I want, but don't have the skills top use them yet. You too will get there.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE

Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#14 - 2013-07-24 01:36:20 UTC
The single best thing you can do to improve your ISK potential is to join a corp.
The experience, advice and options they can offer you will be a major leg-up.

For example, as my esteemed ally suggested near the top of this thread, exploration has high profit potential, if you have access to good space in low/null-sec. And the best way to get a piece of that is to join a corp that stakes out a claim out there. Our alliance-mates makes a killing off exploration due to the quality space we hold together.

Also bare in mind that your ability to make ISK scales with how well you know and understand the game, and it's players' tendencies. I make my ISK via trading, and I'm successful at it because I've come to understand the ins-and-outs of my trading products, as well as the tendencies of my customers. I could not possibly make my current level of income 3 months ago, even though SP is not a bar.

This pattern will likely hold true for you as well, regardless of your chosen income method. It also highlights the side benefits gained from the shared experience of your allies.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#15 - 2013-07-24 09:29:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
High Warlord Carebear wrote:
I don't know a good way to make isk. I've thought of missions, but they seem repetitive and it seems to take too long to get to L4s. Mining takes too long to make any noticable profit. Exploration is even worse profit!

Does anyone know what to do? I'm all out of ideas.


If you are too lazy to make money you can just buy plex. Zero effort involved and much more fun.

Edit: nothing wrong with being lazy.. This is a game, you should be having fun instead of grinding yourself into frustration or struggling for ways to make ISK. Money making is what you do in RL..

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#16 - 2013-07-24 10:15:51 UTC
OP's account is 4 days old. Apart from Factional war there is no way newbee can buy plex after 21 days of grinding. Or you can make a job out of the game - then you can do whatever activity. Even high sec mining, if done 24/7, will give you a plex in less then 2 weeks. About 200 hours with less then 3 mio per hour - thats enough for a PLEX and mining ship and equipment costs.

Just not a game any more.
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#17 - 2013-07-24 12:28:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Trudeaux Margaret
If you've only been in the game for four days, it's a little unrealistic to expect to be a billionaire already, unless (as others have already said) you buy PLEX. It can take a while to find a way to build an income stream. Some players do it more quickly than others.

I have heard of players brand-new to the game figuring out the economy and earning over a billion in their first month simply by station trading.

Missions do, in fact, bring in good money, especially at higher levels. But you have to stick with it and put work into it. You have to put time and work into all the forms of isk-making. Isk doesn't just magically appear in your wallet. Even PLEX when you buy it. It appears in your hangar and then you have to figure out what to do with it.

Have fun.

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl

Kalishka Askulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-07-24 16:38:39 UTC
New kid on the block myself.

I'll go with what I was told, and what seems to be working at this point in time.

Try everything. Keep trying PVP, mining, trading, exploring etc until you find the one you ENJOY doing. Don't get hung up on the big Isk, just play how you want to play. If you get good at what you like, you might actually see a few Isk fall you way Blink
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-07-24 17:04:05 UTC
The scope of this game is massive. If you gave us more details such as how much isk you're trying to make, what are yiu planning to spend it on, what parts of the game you enjoy, etc... we could give you more detailed advice, perhaps even be helpful
Hiroshige Utagawa
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-07-24 19:26:31 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Missions are repetitive, but they can provide a goodly amount of ISK to do other things with. If you find you get bored with missions run incursions.

I've been playing about 2 weeks, currently in the middle of the Sisters of Eve arc.

How do you get started with running incursions?
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