Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please don't listen too much to the "make it work in blobs" folks, thanks.

Thing is that whatever you do to make them good for solo small gang they will be exponentially better when you stack 150+, like it or not but you should think about previous Drakes without a single change becoming from one year of "terrible worthless ship" to "Drakes are OP"

However, changes considering stacking numbers and fleet fights will always profit to smaller engagements and even make solo work a lot better/healthy.

There is another possible approach to Ishtar to think about:

Role Bonus: w/e

Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to effectiveness of armor repair modules
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and Damage

Heavy Assault Cruiser Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to drone hitpoints and Damage
5% bonus to drone speed and tracking

Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 275

The proposed suggestion has a double damage bonus which would make 125mbps OP.

They should make the ishtar unique rather than hashing out bonuses other ships like the domi has..

A emphasis on medium drones would make sense as a specialization just give the Ishtar double damage bonuses and orbit velocity bonus/tracking bonus

The Vaga's speed bonus was on Minmatar Cruiser 5, so that bonus was already at 25% just to fly the hull. This made no sense, so it was rolled into the hull's base stats.

They did the same thing with the stabber, so this makes sense.
They should have rolled the Sac's cap recharge bonus into the hull and given it another missile bonus, its DPS is awful.



I think this is where the roll bonus needs to split, "Combat" HACs could be brawlers with an AB speed bonus, and "Attack" HACs could be kiters with the MWD bonus.

A Vaga with an AB bonus would be a disappointingly wasted bonus.



And Rise, an ASB Vagabond does not count, not in its current incarnation. (Needs more HP, a bit more speed, a 5th mid, and most importantly, not a shield boost bonus )

If someone would ask me what are the best HACs NOW, I'd say:
depends on what you want, probably Vagabond for solo action and Zealot/Ishtar in fleets. Especially the Ishtar you see quite often these days.

Now while the Zealot remains the same, Vaga and Ishtar are supposed to be changed in a way that I would consider a huge buff.
Vaga: + "5th" bonus, Ishtar: split weapon bonus removed which makes the drone focus even stronger.

Is that really a good idea?
Especially the Vagabond really looks very powerful.

While I appreciate the attempts to make Cerberus/Sacrilege/Eagle more viable, they will still lack in comparison to the new Vaga (although a direct comparison is dificult since they fill somewhat different roles).

Is there really some super important reason to mess with the Ishtar that much?

Come up with a meaningful prop-related role bonus for all HACs, up their EHP across the line, then buff Ishtar CPU and mobility to be on par with the others and call it a day. There's six broken HACs to unfuck, Ishtar and Zealot are the least derpy ones so I really see no need for any major changes to either.

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The CSM are the wrong ones to ask. Their agenda is a ship that can be incorporated into fleet. Certainly they don't want small gang hot rods burning threw thier sov space harassing ratters. Come'on