Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok,

I mean 'enhanced SP acquisition times' due to implants and the potential loss 'there of' is the reason they dont pvp that much.

Now will you leave me the **** alone.

*takes out notepad and etches name*

I don't understand avoiding PvP over clone costs. Implants are expensive, but you can just jumpclone out. It's not like you can't go without them for a day or so. I just fill my jumpclones with some +3's, it's not that big of a deal. I'll grant you I'm just under 50 million SP, so maybe I'm not into the ruinous clone prices, but they seem fairly trivial.

I don't willingly PvP because I don't enjoy the process of hunting people down, nor the tedium of baiting. Since there is no gain for doing so, it's just pointless. Any PvP forced upon me is always by people who massively outclass anything I have in space, and is always a negative experience because there was never any chance that I might do anything other than die--- and several times this has been followed up by people trying to ransom my pod and holding me in space for more than half an hour while I sat helpless, or more recently just logged out no longer caring if I wake up podded.

There is no reason to allow myself to be baited. I know when someone steals my mission objective he has backup sufficient to ensure my destruction. If I am not in High Sec I know to just leave if there is someone else in system because there is no point in even trying---if they engage it is because they have more than enough. From the carebear (pirate target) side of things, there is absolutely zero point in ever engaging a hostile pilot.... you have no chance to win, no chance to escape if they engage. Your only defense is to ensure you never actually see them in space. Nor is there any point even if you could win, there is no reward I care about as almost all PvP pilots fly disposable cheaply fit ships.

I enjoy EVE, and I make my game by setting goals. Sometimes it's just to do a few missions, sometimes I'm looking to raise a specific faction, sometimes it's to try out some new module or something that I have recently gained access to. Doing any of that in Low Sec is a massive hassle. I get no thrill from being preyed upon, and I get no thrill from being a predator myself. PvP simply isn't fun for my playstyle because of it's utterly binary nature. It feels as if someone has gained their fun by stealing mine, rather than a competition where we both enjoyed the fight.

Honest question: How do you store a jump clone at an NPC station?
Is their a minimum standing that lets them accept you?

I've only been able to install at alliance controlled locations, so really don't know.

You are correct. And pretty high standings too. Assuming we are including new players, and relatively new players (enough sp and isk to those implants) they might be clouded in that aspect.

Learning implants? Really?

I rarely even use them, I may put a +3 in whatever the primary skillset I'm training up is, but that is about it, and that is relatively rare.

In low sec, I used to fly around with a head FULL of expensive stuff, because its pretty rare that you get podded, like really rare, if I got podded I screwed up.

In null its basically pointless because of bubbles.

it's hard to believe how persistent the stupidity in topics like this is. i'm gonna post it extra bold, so that maybe some folks get it through their skulls:

THERE EXISTS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EVE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN PVP.

they just don't like it period. it's not because of their implants or isk or fear of losing; they just. don't. like. it. same as in real life: some boys are not interested in girls. they prefer other boys. (or animals. or inflatable toys. or ground beef apparently.)
trying to enforce any kind of carebear conversion therapy just makes you look as dumb as michele bachmann and her husband.

Go into low sec maybe, but that does not mean they would PvP.

What we know.

1. Everyone in Eve, does PvP in some form. Industry, mining, the Market etc etc.
2. Some people will never be interested in combat PvP, although they will most likely be involved in it at some point within their time in Eve.
3. Jump clones can be placed in any station you can dock at. To leave it there, you simply jump to another.
4. People do PvP with +5 learning implants.
5. People also PvP with higher value implants than +5s.
6. I even used to PvP with +4 implants in Null.
7. You can use jump clones and avoid using implants if you wish. Although losing a clone in high and low sec, is easily avoidable.
8. The OP can be ignored, as his ideas are not conducive to Eve.

There is always a risk whenever you undock. But blaming your implants for not PvPing, strikes me as simply avoiding being honest with yourself.

Ships, equipment, implants, clones are all throw away things in this game, however skills are not. They are the main and only way of progression, the rest is just fluff.

I don't care if my ship blows up, but I will NOT tolerate losing training efficiency! Blame CCP for coming up with this system of progression, but even if you strip high sec down into nothing more than station spinning if that will grant the best learning speeds I am going to stick to that.

This is not true.

I don't engage in PvP at the moment. I do lv 4 missions only, and all market-pvp is avoided (I don't sell items myself - I don't buy items from markets either :) ).