EVE General Discussion

Well I'm not butthurt if you are providing my entertainment for the day. My goal is get you to get mad and post more for my sole entertainment. So fare it seems I am achieving that goal. I'm just pointing out how bad everyone looks as they keep trying to justify their world view to other people.

I'm not doing that. I don't give a damn what other people think because I know it does not matter because no matter what we say its not going to change anything major. Again, I'm just trying to get entertainment at this point.

Thank you.

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ISD Flidais Asagiri

In my humble opinion...and it’s just that an opinion.

All ccp needs to do do in order to make hi-sec harder is give the NPC’s (in belts and missions) is to buff there damage and tank. And put larger ships in the belts, instead of just frigates. That way the industry guys can’t just sit there and perma tank, they will NEED to have protection in the way of someone to dispose of the NPC’s.

Second with a harder (more dps + tank) smarter lvl 4 and 5 mission NPC’s the later become much harder combine this with more ewar thrown in. Then they will take longer to do (solo) and the risk vs reward will be more...in line with what it should be. Because of this more people will run in groups which will line up with CCP’s initiative to have more people doing things together.

Before someone tries to turn this around...Yes I do missions and I will be the first to admit that they are way to easy right now specially in a marauder or pirate BS granted you can’t afk them like you once could with drones but its pretty darn close.

I think some of you are just auguring about the rebalance because you can...or are one of the people who enjoy an easy game like WOW *ducks* this is eve and I was under the impression it was supposed to be harder?

Considering, thanks to that feminism thread, that I KNOW you are black and southern (and a cop), this just made me laugh so hard that I bit my tongue. You sir, win the thread.

Lol. Well you gave me a good laugh. You aren't all bad. Even though I disagree with your world view.

That makes me so moist.

I will try out some escalations in my next jaunt to 0.0 in Sansha space to check how much I make, though this depends on how busy the space is. I have noted that I took the comment from others that the escalations were better in other regions and used my own experience in alliance fleets doing Blood Raiders 10/10's as indicative of the drops, which you pointed out was the error in my assumptions which I accept. From what you said its as low as 150m and as high as 3bn. The conclusion I have drawn from what you have said is that the players who said that the other escalations were better, were talking about more attractive loot than a large amount of T2 Salvage, such as pirate faction BS BPC's. But whatever the value it can at times be a massive increase to the value of 0.0 ratting, surely you cannot deny that.

Back to your Incusrion point, you said that you were dual or triple boxing incursions, you must have a very high concentration level, and must be working with multiple monitors. The speed at which the rats go down in a good fleet means that you have a hell of a click fest if you are triple boxing without Iboxer (I think that is what its called.) How many normal players do what you are doing, I have done quite a few incrusions but mainly with corp/alliance mates and none of them triple or even dual boxed. This may be the behaviour of a certain tier of incursion runner, but is that the way that most people do incursions, mostly they pimp out one toon for it.

So what are you comparing based on a single toon, 80m to 100m an hour for an incursion vs someone carrier ratting in 0.0 which can be 80m an hour as a reasonable average, taking into account interruptions etc. On top of that there will be faction drops and of course escalations, which can be 150m to 3bn in most regions and 400m to 1.2bn in drone space.

As you are in a 0.0 alliance you should be happy that people can make ISK in HS so that they can chance their arm in 0.0 or low sec, just because some people earn massive amounts of ISK and use that as a measure of their success or failure makes no odds to me and a significant proportion of the HS player base, why should our fun be attacked because some people can triple box incusuions for hours at a time. Many of us use HS to make ISK because in the main 0.0 is controlled by people that we do not want to be part of, often I go to 0.0 to have fun and accept a much lower ISK per hour based on safety, but at times I have been in 0.0 and been able to milk it for real ISK and made billions.

And the issue is how many people can stand doing incursions, I do them quite rarely now, because I found them so damn boring before the nerf, which gets to the next point, if you nerf earning in HS to match some sort of risk/reward touchy feeling type thing then you make people have to grind a lot more and some players might look at it and say, damn that they are attacking my game play I will try that new game and off they go.

This nerf HS chant of soldier ants from 0.0 is very tedious and stupid, its a sandbox to have fun in, not a sandbox based on 0.0 players assessment of risk and reward, they should HTFU and play the game.

I disagree with all of you, therefore I'm right and you guys are all wrong.

Because I'm better than you all.

Because my mom told me I was special.

Because I'm an anonymous internet nerd and I can .I. U

The same was said when they nerfed incursions, and when they changed ice, and when they changed exploration and every single time the ban hammer has landed on bots and when FW income was nerfed.

People wont quit because level 4 mission income is nerfed to a more balanced level.

They over nerfed incursions and adjusted them back up.

The ice changes have not impacted yet as there are huge stockpiles, however the first issue will be Liquid Ozone in High Sec.

Exploration, can't comment on that too much, I just did the odd one.

Bans on bots, damn right.

FW income nerfed, are you talking about the Goon manipulation or something else, as far as I can see FW income is still pretty good.

And what the hell is nerfing level 4's to a balanced level, they are as boring as hell and not that great in terms of ISK generation, balanced against what, belt ratting in 0.0, I much prefer belt ratting to missions.

They just nerfed them again



They have made it worth doing in null/low and ended infinate ice in high sec.



The stopped t3s from the better high sec sites and made it so that you are better rewarded for doing them in low and null.



You will make a lot more in level 4s than with belt ratting. Infact level 4s are not far off anoms in terms of income for your average line member.