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Is there a point? (wh mining is now just throwing away isk)

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Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#61 - 2013-07-19 00:22:48 UTC
I'm sorry but I read your first two posts and I've wasted enough time on you already. Your ideas are way out there and the idea that you're working hard for your ISK at the moment is a joke.

Ronce wrote:
Lazy? I'm doing 3 jobs while mining. Mining, Watching for new spans, and spamming d-scan.


Whos leg are you trying to pull? Mining means you just activate your lasers and sit there staring at your screen. Watching for new spans? WTF. Checking dscan? WTF??!? Just close your entrance, ignore all sigs, wait for a new sig to pop up on scanner while you sit back listening to all your hard working mining lasers do everything for you.

Ronce wrote:
Give WH's instant local intel, just like null. Or roll this back and say "my bad, we dumb"


I'm sorry but please go back to hisec mining so I can gank you for being so ignorant.

Heaven help you if I find your wormhole.



0.5/10
Frying Doom
#62 - 2013-07-19 02:14:03 UTC
That was why I left WHs

I enjoyed mining, but given that WH mining is kind of insane to start with given the refining arrays, to make them more dangerous gave me a clear path.

So I closed 4 accounts and moved out of a WH, now I just spend my time trading, not as much fun but infinitely better than bashing my head against a wall waiting to be ganked.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Grand Admiral Simo-Hayha
Vigilante Carebears
#63 - 2013-07-19 08:42:09 UTC
It's impossible to know what they were thinking when they destroyed grav sites and made them warpable. It just makes no sense. However it did benefit the megacorperations and damage our ability to mine for what we need for various endevors.

However, I do believe having Goonswarm on the CSM was also a problem.

Call me crazy.
G0hme
Illusion of Flight
#64 - 2013-07-19 10:47:31 UTC
OP Troll post.

And you all fell for it.

10/10



Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012

Shook CCP Soundwave's hand at Fanfest 2013

Got NPC API removed from Wormhole Space.

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#65 - 2013-07-20 06:37:37 UTC
I made an alt to do mining. I threw his ass in a Retriever and started mining. I made money. I never died. Nor did i check d-scan. I did it while alt-tabbed out at work.

Sure, it's dangerous. But you may as well be doing it afk and not worry about getting vaped every now and then. That's when it gets to stressful.

Oh, also, doing it in a C3 with nullsec static is probably a good idea.
Helgrind Wolf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-07-20 10:25:01 UTC
Was out mining in my delicious mack the other day, saw a cynabal enter wh and warp to me, warped my mining toon out and my drake pilot in and had a hell of a good fight, got that cynabal too even though is proteus friends finished me off with a glorious explosion.

I would like to see a refining array that doesn't ask me to bend over though. Roll
Bjurn Akely
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-07-20 15:18:51 UTC
Helgrind Wolf wrote:
Was out mining in my delicious mack the other day, saw a cynabal enter wh and warp to me, warped my mining toon out and my drake pilot in and had a hell of a good fight, got that cynabal too even though is proteus friends finished me off with a glorious explosion.

I would like to see a refining array that doesn't ask me to bend over though. Roll


That's the spirit! Kudos!
Yoshmoto
BLOPSEC
#68 - 2013-07-20 22:48:42 UTC
You are such a bear. Get some balls or GTFO wormhole space and go to K space.

They have already given you bears local chat. AKA insta spawning sigs so you don't even have to have combat probes out.

I spend a lot of time hunting miners like you because you **** me off so much.

Why don't you do something about this yourself instead of asking CCP to change the game?

Why not have a ewar ship cloaked nearby? Why not have a cloaky proteus cloaked next to you to counter the gank?

Bait the ganker with a tanky ship 1st to blow his cover.

I know why you don't do this.! You want to sit on your ass and make free ISK without having to work for it.

WH space is for people with balls. Deal with it or STFU.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2013-07-23 00:23:12 UTC
Ronce wrote:
I'm not screaming for the sake of being a jerk ...


Hmmm, I will reserve judgement on that for the time being.

Not entirely sure what the 'issue' is here, you have so clouded it in your erstwhile manual self-gratification that it's kinda lost to me.

Is the perceived problem that the grav sites no longer require probe scanning, and so are easier for hostiles to catch miners at? If that's it, it does seem to be a pretty major shift in risk-benefit profile.
When I knew all my wormholes were virgins and scanned down a grav site, I used to feel safer mining there than in hisec. Sure I could have a camper who had scanned the site down before me and was just waiting, but that was pretty unlikely.

Still, even if you do not have to probe scan them nowadays you still have the fundamental w-space safety tenet of managing your wormholes. If you know they are all virgins then you only need to keep a watch for a new spawner to stay relatively safe while mining.

All the same, that's a pretty major nerfing of w-space miner safety.

As for immediate local in w-space? Like inya dreams sweetheart. A goodly portion of null folk are screaming to turn null local into delayed, w-space style, local ... while another (mainly nullbear) faction are calling for cloaking to be nerfed so people cannot sit in local afk-all-day and spook them. Everyone wants eve to be changed to suit what they wanna do. oh well.
If w-space mining is not worhwhile then I guess it'd be best not to mine. BTW if you want to park that titan on a gate please let me know, I know some people who'd be more than happy to come play with you there.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#70 - 2013-07-23 00:29:50 UTC
Not sure if it's a bug or intentional, but new sigs aren't showing up for me until I refresh the list by checking/unchecking the "show anomalies" checkbox.

That said...it's no different than clicking dscan every now and then to check for probes.