EVE General Discussion

Wait, you had no benefit to engage a hotdropper? You can't think of a single way to counter a hot dropper? Not one?

No, what I'm trying to say is your opinions are not automatically greater than anyone else's. Undoubtedly here is where you say your opinions are more important, because you hide behind an alt while you troll all day.
Oh yeah cos free speech and all that. As long as you don't have to have any conviction behind your words.

Apparently, you're the one who hasn't read the thread - I've been here all along:

Your percieved need has been categorically rejected; repeatedly, and with evidence.
There are existing ways to cope with a cloaker.
There is no need to change the game.
If you cannot handle someone making spooky noises in the attic, play another game, or upgrade your thinking.

Here you start to see the mental barriers the guy has to prevents him from being rational.

I've caught nullfied T3s before, with a Dramiel and drone swarm. It works the same way with any cloaky, it's rare and not easy, but you can ruin their day because they thought they were "invulnerable" lol.

I've also intentionally baited hotdroppers, Ratting Domis have LOTS of high slots, and cynos only take one of them lol. We killed 2 panthers doing this, BLOPS no likey Carriers.

That this kell guy is so uncreative as to not even consider different tactical options is no surprise. Many of us have suggested counters.

But like i said, they don't want solutions, they want hand holding.

Reposting for emphasis. People need to quit with the welfare state, entitlement-minded nonsense, and just play the damn game.

You've got to be kidding me. ...oh, ok so I made it down to the bottom and see that your pvp wing is small. Fair enough.

You are paying a local alliance for space, right? Maybe try convoing one of those guys and say, look. I got a cyno bait ship waiting to set a counter-drop trap, and this player, "player x", has hotdropped on us in the last month. They like to bring in shiny supercarriers to pick on our ratting ships.

If your alliance has any pvp players worth their salt, their response should be something along the lines of, ok....ok....we're on our titan, lets go fishing, and their comms will be lulzy with anticipation.

And assuming they dont bring in shiny ships, Im sure the alliance, assuming they're not knee deep in a war, will be willing to supply an appropriate counter to what the expected drop is. Those guys are usually looking for stuff like this because quite franklly, counter-drop kills are epic.

Also depending on what subcaps they might bring in, even a small pvp gang can mess them up with a handful of bombers and one brave interdictor soul who will bubble their hotdrop fleet.

So, you have no personal experience in the matter, which somehow gives you the intellectual authority to disqualify arguments by fiat that are being made by people who actually have a clue what they are talking about?

Is that about right?

Forgot mercenaries. Lucas, you have heard about the massive PL supercarrier kill, right? That was a trap, and mercenaries (BL) were brought in to do the killing. PL is one of the most feared in all of EvE for hotdropping, and they fell prey to a trap.

Granted, that trap was sprung from the inside, but that only shows just how many ways there are to skin a cat in this game. And if you listened to the PL soundcloud afterwards, it should give you an insight into how deep this game really is. Grath was angry because the supercap pilots were careless, they didnt check their spy network, they didnt check if their jumprange put them in jumprange of enemy caps, they didnt even ask where they were going.

Pretty much tells me hot dropping is serious business, an caps are extremely vulnerable. A little intel goes a long way, and getting temporary friends who will gladly kill others for you just for lulz is easy.

Looks right to me lol.

That poster doesn't bother to look at his own posting or critique his own ideas. if he did he'd know that he was his own problem rather than the half dozen or so people he's argued with in this thread (a thread that is so unimportant that he doesn't even post in it, except that he keeps posting LOL).

He's typical of the "gimmie gimmmie" crowd, he doesn't understand that what he wants would hurt the game (in that it would help establish alliances entrench even further and remove a useful economic warfare tool from Alliances tool boxes).

Basically asking ccp to screw up a game that is working fine as is because he thinks it's unfair that people can cloak and go take a dump or something is very selfish IMO.

I choose to adapt myself to the situation (with STABS! lol) than expect the game to adapt to me.

I didn't forget them lol. Why would an industry corp pay mercenaries when we were already set up with multiple systems on standby? Besides, all that would do is encourage them to come more often.