EVE General Discussion

This is a request to respectfully leave T3 Strategic Cruisers as is. They're expensive, require a specific (non-transferable) skill set and are already penalized with the loss of skill points when one is lost. With the removal from 3/4 complexes they're now relegated to mission-running and wormhole operations. Yes, they're op - they're supposed to be. There are worthier projects: Marauders, Black Ops and Pirate Factions, to name a few.

I love these threads. I'll start the bidding with NO!

1) T3s aren't expensive, you can fully fit a T3 for much less than a billion.
2) T3s had no business in your 3/10s and 4/10s, their use for those sites were completely edging out newer players by leaps and bounds.
3) T3s have far more uses than mission running and wormholes and you'd know this if you bothered to peek outside of your hisec bubble.
4) Blops BSes have been heavily rebalanced, pirate faction ships are not currently in a bad state save for Sansha hulls and perhaps Blood Raiders, and marauders fill their intended roles just fine.

1) T3s aren't expensive, you can fully fit a T3 for much less than a billion.

And CCP moaned they still cost too much and wanted them to be chaeper...

2) T3s had no business in your 3/10s and 4/10s, their use for those sites were completely edging out newer players by leaps and bounds.

You can't. Since Odyessy they've been prevented from getting into 3-4/0's, a 'NEW' player going into a 4/10 would loose their ship ayway

3) T3s have far more uses than mission running and wormholes and you'd know this if you bothered to peek outside of your hisec bubble.

Like every other ship

4) Blops BSes have been heavily rebalanced, pirate faction ships are not currently in a bad state save for Sansha hulls and perhaps Blood Raiders, and marauders fill their intended roles just fine.

Marauders are misson ships end of, and their not even very good at that now. They have a useless bonus since the Noctis, are frequently replaced by faction battleships. Pirate Faction BS's will probably be nerfed next.

The T3 subsystems are hilariously out of balance and if you don't see this you're bad and should feel bad.

No. T3 subsystems need alot of nerfing.

That's sort of what he means by "hilariously out of balance" you know. Some of the subsystem configurations are ridiculously good and give you ships far superior to the alternatives, and some of them are really bad and give you ships decidedly inferior to the alternatives. That's poor balance.

I can fly a t3, and I disagree with you
there are certain subsystem configurations that give too much benefit over specialised T2 ships

eg .. Tengu v's Cerberus

as a T3 pilot you should know all about their multirole versality
and that versatility should come at a price
currently it doesnt

there's a devblog somewhere with a graphic that shows the future t1, t2, t3 power-ratio
find it, look at it, and get used to the idea now.





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yes im aware of the 'failgu' fitting option
im hoping it will be fixed to be a little more viable.

No, you just fit the good options and ignore the bad, until you end up with the situation we have today where there's essentially only one or two ways to fit each T3 and a massive pile of useless subsystems piled up in Jita.

What? What do T2 BSes and pirate ships have to do with this?