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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-21 21:39:47 UTC
Ive read about off grid boosting. But theres a lot i dont know.

1) What ships do the boosting
2) what modules are needed
3) what aspects of the ship are boosted? Ehp,dps,speed....or any stat u want...or all the stats the the target ship turns into superman?
4) and the main question. If ur using 2 accts why one fighting and one boosting. Wouldnt bringing 2 ships to the fight be more powerful than 1 boosted one?
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#2 - 2013-07-21 22:00:49 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
Ive read about off grid boosting. But theres a lot i dont know.

1) What ships do the boosting
2) what modules are needed
3) what aspects of the ship are boosted? Ehp,dps,speed....or any stat u want...or all the stats the the target ship turns into superman?
4) and the main question. If ur using 2 accts why one fighting and one boosting. Wouldnt bringing 2 ships to the fight be more powerful than 1 boosted one?



1) Strategic Cruisers, Command Ships, Carriers, Supercaps
2) Gang Modules, Command Processors.
3) It's different for every race. Crudely - Amarr helps armor tanking. Caldari helps Shield tanking. Minmatar gives really small sig radii. makes AB and MWD faster, and extends point and web range. Gallente gives longer lock ranges as well as better e-war and e-war resistance.
4) Surprise is the one weapon of the Spanish Inquisition..... Cool
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-21 22:04:46 UTC
4) why not just bring in the 2nd ship after uve hooked ur fish. There are people that dont engage ogb ships because they know what to look for in the performance of such a ship. Im not one of those. And it probably only applies to speed. But seems like if ur multi boxing accts. Fly a tackle frig and when it catches something bring in the bs.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#4 - 2013-07-21 22:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarnak Wulf
It just depends. Many times you don't have the option of observing the target's performance before you decide to engage. In FW, if I'm inside a plex in a brawling frigate and I see a Condor on short scan- I either choose to engage or GTFO right then and there. If I choose to engage and the target is at 25km before I can even lock him - well, I chose poorly.

Other reasons:

Many plexes won't let ships of a certain size enter them.
Many people role with OGB these days. You have to keep up with the Joneses.
Killmails look much more impressive when something little kills something out of it's normal comfort zone. Roll
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#5 - 2013-07-21 22:27:50 UTC
Its a huge effort to dualbox ships. Also sometimes and especially while kiting one boosted ship can be far more powerful than 2 not linked ones.

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-21 22:46:50 UTC
How much of a boost are ogb giving? 25% reduction to sig. 75% increase in speed etc?
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#7 - 2013-07-21 22:55:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Baali Tekitsu
Im not sure, I think the numbers werde always 32,5% on ganglink implanted T3s.

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MINDlink implanted

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Leeloo Lanna
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#8 - 2013-07-22 03:32:54 UTC
You're also not going to see the OGB ship pop in to save that frigate you're tossing. Won't happen.

Secondlyif there's a player controlled pos in system where the dual boxer park's their OGB then you're stuck dealing with that.

As someone who solos you figure out the tactics that will work best for you to adapt. Otherwise join a corp and maybe go pos bashing in the local area (assuming they aren't blues or in your alliance).
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-07-22 09:07:01 UTC
I've seen someone challenging people in a Federation Navy Comet ... that was both skirmish-boosted by a Loki and armor-boosted by a Legion, both neutral, both nestled inside a POS's force field. If the boosters are highly trained and using command mindlinks, it can get pretty silly.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-07-22 10:17:01 UTC
Its far easier to fly a solo ship with OGB than it is to dual box, this obviously changes depending on ship type, but generally the smaller the ship(s) you want to fly the harder it is to dual box them.

Dual Boxing interceptors is a bloody nightmare.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-07-22 12:15:18 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
Ive read about off grid boosting. But theres a lot i dont know.

1) What ships do the boosting
2) what modules are needed
3) what aspects of the ship are boosted? Ehp,dps,speed....or any stat u want...or all the stats the the target ship turns into superman?
4) and the main question. If ur using 2 accts why one fighting and one boosting. Wouldnt bringing 2 ships to the fight be more powerful than 1 boosted one?


1. Telling would be facilitating this awful trend
2. Telling would be facilitating this awful trend
3. Depends on the link type. It basically increases said stat by 50% because **** logic
4. Depends. If you can pilot two ships perfectly at the same time maybe... But generally its used because it makes a fuckton more powerful with almost no risk with no actual multi-boxing required.

Don't do it man, its not cool.

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Princess Bride
SharkNado
#12 - 2013-07-22 18:03:40 UTC
Do it man.

It's a perfectly legitimate, and widely used, mechanic. Fight fire with fire or get used to being burned.

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Salan Steel
Nasranite Watch
#13 - 2013-07-22 20:59:11 UTC
"Solo" PvP costs extra. It's 2 PLEX / month.

In exchange you will be able to compete in Novice plexes and earn your peers' respect for being a pilot who flies linked.
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-07-23 19:53:20 UTC
Does that imply u need 2x ogb to be competitive?
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#15 - 2013-07-23 20:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Ciyrine wrote:
Does that imply u need 2x ogb to be competitive?


To compete at the very top level - it definitely helps. It depends on the fit of what you are flying. Buffer/range fits can do pretty well with just a loki.

I would be training a second link alt now if I didn't have faith that CCP will someday soon remove off grid boosting.
Ctzn Snips
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-07-23 21:03:19 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
Does that imply u need 2x ogb to be competitive?


From my solo roaming experience, 1 is mandatory, 2 is recommended.
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-07-23 21:22:14 UTC
2 ogb to be competitive. Well done ccp
Srensis
Orange Powers
The Chicken Coop
#18 - 2013-07-23 23:07:25 UTC
1 with 4+ links is more than enough
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-23 23:55:29 UTC
until you run into someone with 2 or 3 OGB?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2013-07-24 00:37:29 UTC
Just in case you havn't noticed, they are ******* with you.

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