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Shield Phoon

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Asaryuu
Liquid Words
#1 - 2013-07-21 05:43:46 UTC
Putting together a shield phoon now even with with a Coproc and a sig amp, i still have 2 open slots and i'm just not sure what to put there. Also i'm choosing between this a Raven. I have Minmatar BS 5 but only Caldari BS 4. I've grown bored of turrets and want to try a new weapon system. Any help is appreciated.
If possible can someone show me a good armor tank setup comparable to this shield setup using no rigs slots? Thanks

[Typhoon, Phoon]

6x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (Inferno Cruise Missile)

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

3x Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Signal Amplifier II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2013-07-21 07:02:38 UTC
You seem to be missing a couple of low slots?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2013-07-21 07:21:03 UTC
As a general rule, PvE shield fits > PvE armour fits for a given ship provided that you can get the shield fit to work, because the incoming damage is very predictable and once you can tank a scenario, the only useful improvements are more damage (which means low slots for damage mods) and more speed (which means not fitting eg: armor rigs)

If you're willing to put some ISK into it - as you clearly are - you can make that shield fit considerably more efficient. Here's a very tight fit using similar mods, with the expensive boost amp dropped for a T2 with the same CPU and only 1.5% less boost efficiency and the ISK spent on Caldari Navy BCUs (each of which free up 16 CPU) - you'll need a 1% CPU implant assuming you don't have launcher rigging V trained. If you train up than you can fit it without the implant and put in a Halo or Snake set. It has the same tank as your fit, and candidly, it's going to be tricky to fly in some L4s. But the DPS is insane.

[Typhoon Fleet Issue, KinTherm]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Gist B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x10
Garde II x1

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Whitehound
#4 - 2013-07-21 09:09:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
As an alternative idea, you could drop the tank a little and use a Micro Jump Drive and an Afterburner combo instead.

The tank is little, but will do for smaller missions. Otherwise do you jump 100km away to stay out of the kill zone and use the full range of the cruise missiles. The AB is for getting from gate to gate and to pick up loot.

[Typhoon, PvE MJD+AB shield]

Damage Control II
Signal Amplifier II
Signal Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Large Micro Jump Drive
10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Warden II x4 (or Bouncer IIs)
Hobgoblin II x5

Here with armor tank and a bit more DPS, because of dual painters and drone damage mod:

[Typhoon, MJD+AB armor]

Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Micro Jump Drive
10MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Warden II x4 (or Bouncer IIs)
Hobgoblin II x5

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Dalts
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#5 - 2013-07-21 11:45:24 UTC
If you're going to spend a bit of ISK, might as well use a Fleet Issue Typhoon
Asaryuu
Liquid Words
#6 - 2013-07-21 15:30:34 UTC
Thanks guys!
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2013-07-21 16:11:28 UTC
Dalts wrote:
If you're going to spend a bit of ISK, might as well use a Fleet Issue Typhoon


Erm. Fleet 'phoon is a very different ship. It doesn't get the missile damage application bonus at all but retains the old 'phoon's split weapon bonus. They're not really comparable. Kind of like the Domi/NDomi these days -- but more so.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#8 - 2013-07-21 19:05:27 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:

Erm. Fleet 'phoon is a very different ship. It doesn't get the missile damage application bonus at all but retains the old 'phoon's split weapon bonus. They're not really comparable. Kind of like the Domi/NDomi these days -- but more so.


Fleet phoon has more missile dps but worse application, though with the drone abilities of the fleet phoon you don't need to worry about shooting the small stuff.