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Let's Play, l4, Vengeance, Angel Cartel

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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-07-21 11:15:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
The purpose of the video was to show someone how to run this mission, however because it's done in such a terrible way I cannot categorise this as a "guide" since it's doing so many things wrong. I don't think there's demand for this kind of content anyway since even if these guides are horrible they should have more views than they currently do just from people searching and clicking on it out of curiosity.


So, guide how to run level 4 mission in Dramiel is worse than his video because Dramiel guide has less plays?

Also, EVE videos in general don't get high play counts in Youtube.
Nour Aerilon
Inhumanum Legionis
#42 - 2013-07-21 11:25:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Nour Aerilon
Ok I havent read this thread but I can imagine that it gets some aggro.


1) The fit.

U are flying a Domi but u dont use the EPIC range and tracking it gets to drones. The tank consist of no less than 9 modules not including rigs. Thats probably the most overkill tank Ive ever seen. U should be able to have enough tank and stil be able to put out 800 Drone DPS + 3 Omnis in mids. Your Garde damage is 550 DPS and Warden damage lands on 420 DPS (all 5s in relevant skills). I get more in a well skilled Drake.


2) Bad Drone setup

Wardens for Angels? U only need Gardes or maybe Bouncers against Angels. My setup would be like this for this mission:

Bouncer II, Berserker II, Warrior II.


For any other mission Id go:

Garde II, possibly rat specefic sentry II, Hobgoblin II


Also, why T1 drones? U should be able to manage your light drones so that u dont lose them. Losing drones should never be an issue.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-07-21 11:58:43 UTC
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Tobias Hareka wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
The purpose of the video was to show someone how to run this mission, however because it's done in such a terrible way I cannot categorise this as a "guide" since it's doing so many things wrong. I don't think there's demand for this kind of content anyway since even if these guides are horrible they should have more views than they currently do just from people searching and clicking on it out of curiosity.


So, guide how to run level 4 mission in Dramiel is worse than his video because Dramiel guide has less plays?

Also, EVE videos in general don't get high play counts in Youtube.


No because nobody is going to youtube "dramiel level 4 mission" because there's no demand for it.

Art of Explosions
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-07-21 12:01:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
No because nobody is going to youtube "dramiel level 4 mission" because there's no demand for it.


Yet some people complain about "frigates can't do level 4s". What?

Point? There are many ways to do level 4s. His dual rep Domi is one way to do them. For example I like to slowboat around without prop mod, use unstable laser ships without cap booster against Blood Raiders. Yes, I know that I do level 4s the wrong way because I don't use sentries but I just don't care.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#45 - 2013-07-21 12:19:46 UTC
I like the part about T2 drones taking more space
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-07-21 16:39:31 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
No because nobody is going to youtube "dramiel level 4 mission" because there's no demand for it.


Yet some people complain about "frigates can't do level 4s". What?

Point? There are many ways to do level 4s. His dual rep Domi is one way to do them. For example I like to slowboat around without prop mod, use unstable laser ships without cap booster against Blood Raiders. Yes, I know that I do level 4s the wrong way because I don't use sentries but I just don't care.


the dramiel isn't "doing" level 4s he did ONE level 4 just prove he could.

Art of Explosions
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#47 - 2013-07-21 17:22:27 UTC
This is... Do people actually run missions like this? I mean... why?
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2013-07-21 19:22:08 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
the dramiel isn't "doing" level 4s he did ONE level 4 just prove he could.


Yeah, he did just "one mission"...

Dramiel:
Attack of the Drones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnFpHdbwGMs
Intercept the saboteurs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K54piiNshfk

Cruor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWyk9S5ICJs
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-07-21 19:26:10 UTC
And is he doing them repeatedly for profit?

Stop beating a dead horse already.

Art of Explosions
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-07-21 19:37:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
And is he doing them repeatedly for profit?


Profit isn't the only reason to do missions. Some of us actually do higher level missions in frigates for fun. You can't put price for fun. It also teaches you, as a player, some of the most important skills that can't be acquired through skillpoints or flying heavily tanked battleships.

It also can be nerve-wracking: barely tanking level 3 mission with faction fit Hawk. Shields @ 10-12% and damage slowly bleeds to armor but still a lot of ships to be destroyed.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-07-21 19:49:35 UTC
My god you are impossible, that's exactly what I said: he did them once in a frigate to record and to show people he could and because it was fun.



Art of Explosions
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-07-23 18:17:50 UTC
oO eh.. yeah I have to agree if you are to put up a video on youtube then at least have a clue on what you are doing.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#53 - 2013-07-23 22:49:14 UTC
That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-07-23 23:36:13 UTC
Q 5 wrote:
That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.


As much as I hate some nerfs they are sometimes needed. I was upset when they nerfed heavy missiles but that's the game. Many games nerf and buff items as needed. That's a silly reason not to "invest in the game"
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2013-07-24 00:38:40 UTC
Q 5 wrote:
That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.


yes they totally nerfed all those frigates and cruisers you NEVER saw anyone fly before. *nods* totally nerfed to the ground, no one ever flies them anymore.. or how about those hacs they are looking at.. more nerfs wait.. they got buffed?

you mean.. they dont just nerf but balance?! nah that is crazy talk. surely we should only boost and **** power creep
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-07-24 01:07:38 UTC
So how did this go from a post about a bad video, to an argument about the how's and why's people run missions to complaining about nerfs?


I like Tacos.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2013-07-24 01:21:02 UTC
Klymer wrote:
So how did this go from a post about a bad video, to an argument about the how's and why's people run missions to complaining about nerfs?


I like Tacos.



we talking pink tacos or just talking tacos in general?

ok now I am hungry, good thing hubby is making dinner.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-07-24 08:57:31 UTC
Well it was Taco Tuesdaze at Tijuana Flats today and there were lots of pink tacos in the joint, so use your imagination and some hot sauce Blink
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#59 - 2013-07-24 12:21:41 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Well it was Taco Tuesdaze at Tijuana Flats today and there were lots of pink tacos in the joint, so use your imagination and some hot sauce Blink


Ahh heck, just doing my job, BUT! Besides taco Tuesday (which I love), I really love the 12 pcs special a Hooters on Monday's. P
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-07-24 12:54:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
IIshira wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
That's why I don't buy plex or invest in this game, everytime I turn around it's nerf this and nerf that, hopefully another space sim will come along.


As much as I hate some nerfs they are sometimes needed. I was upset when they nerfed heavy missiles but that's the game. Many games nerf and buff items as needed. That's a silly reason not to "invest in the game"


They didn't nerf heavy missiles. They rebalanced them. They also buffed all other missiles systems. Are you sure you don't like the fact that they removed those stupid ship penalties from T2 missiles?
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