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Griefed in the Help channel, need a way to remove the isk

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Chock Nurris
Cloakers
#1 - 2013-07-21 08:21:51 UTC
Hi

I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a questionw I started EVE in a few years ago but due to having to go to university I had to drop out and have just resubbedw

I think the bounty system is messed up, I have had 14 million isk put on me I have perfect security status in 8 different locations in the space of about an hour for asking how to make iskw

It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?w

Doesnt really make much sense does it?w especially when it happens in a help channel designed to help people in game who are neww.

Thanksw
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#2 - 2013-07-21 08:23:56 UTC
Get killed in 70m ISK worth of ships?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Chock Nurris
Cloakers
#3 - 2013-07-21 08:25:46 UTC
I dont have that much moneyw and why should I get myself killed spending 70 million to remove 14 million in unfair bounties?w
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2013-07-21 08:27:28 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Because each time someone kills you, they get paid 20% of the ships value from the bounty pool.


What's unfair about them? Somebody wanted to put a bounty on you, they did. Just like every other bounty. Poops and Giggles is a perfectly valid reason for doing that.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Whitehound
#5 - 2013-07-21 08:27:45 UTC
Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#6 - 2013-07-21 08:29:19 UTC
Get in a BC and insure it, undock from Jita 4-4, steal from one of the ganker cans, wait 1 minute, bounty gone.

As for placing bounties on otherwise lawful players, it's necessary. There are many reasons someone may want to place a bounty on someone. For example, I'm a trader, and threatened a giant bounty on a freighter character because he claimed a courier I added 3 extra zeros to. Result, I got 1/2 of it back. He was naturally a high sec status, carebear player...

I agree that it's lame to get tiny bounties from chat channels or from random sources. I have an alt with a bounty and he's never said a word in a single channel. The solution is to raise the minimum bounty to something reasonable like 5-10m, imo.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-07-21 08:39:02 UTC
mechtech wrote:
Get in a BC and insure it, undock from Jita 4-4, steal from one of the ganker cans, wait 1 minute, bounty gone.
Insuring it would defeat the purpose and leave a big chunk of bounty still on the character.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#8 - 2013-07-21 08:48:38 UTC
No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-07-21 09:02:36 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe.

owLol

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Chic Botany
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-21 09:17:17 UTC
At one point you had to have a negative sec status before a bounty could be applied, then a few expansions ago, CCP decided that was boring and needed more tears to fuel the forum server, so they made it so everyone could have a bounty applied.

Not sure of the logic behind that move, but hey it's here so you just have to deal with it.

It isn't much to worry about at that level, even big bounties are a bit meh, you could have a billion isk bounty and if someone shoots you when you're in a cheap ship then they get very little.

Ignore it, yes I guess the Wanted sign on your picture is an annoyance, but meh it's eve, and people do that kind of stuff for a kick as they're a bunch of weirdos Twisted
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-21 09:27:02 UTC
OP ramping up his bounty with the classic "I'm being griefed, add to the injury" move.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-07-21 09:33:27 UTC
Chic Botany wrote:
At one point you had to have a negative sec status before a bounty could be applied, then a few expansions ago, CCP decided that was boring and needed more tears to fuel the forum server, so they made it so everyone could have a bounty applied.

Not sure of the logic behind that move, but hey it's here so you just have to deal with it.

It isn't much to worry about at that level, even big bounties are a bit meh, you could have a billion isk bounty and if someone shoots you when you're in a cheap ship then they get very little.

Ignore it, yes I guess the Wanted sign on your picture is an annoyance, but meh it's eve, and people do that kind of stuff for a kick as they're a bunch of weirdos Twisted


The logic is very simple. The same people that make constant and frivolous petitions are the ones that get upset by the meaningless bounties. Now CCP get revenge and we can all giggle at people like the OP.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2013-07-21 09:54:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
OP is a wuss, when people bounty him he should evemail them back and insult them for the paltry amount placed.
Whitehound wrote:
Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe.

I thought she looked familiar. Must be related to Mildew.

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Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#14 - 2013-07-21 10:02:08 UTC
It's not a very big bounty, OP.

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Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#15 - 2013-07-21 10:20:07 UTC
Chock Nurris wrote:

It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?



Um, Yes you can put a bounty on your neighbor or the guy in the service station. Simply go to your local lowlife bar, say "the first person to beat up that guy at the service station shall receive $$$ from me".
[NOTE: this is hypothetical... don't do this at home kids]

Anyway, Man-up!

Sheesh, if I wasn't out of the county at the moment, I'd bounty you simply for that name.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Uma D
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-07-21 10:27:12 UTC
Chock Nurris wrote:
Hi

I was griefed in help channel with bounties for asking a questionw I started EVE in a few years ago but due to having to go to university I had to drop out and have just resubbedw

I think the bounty system is messed up, I have had 14 million isk put on me I have perfect security status in 8 different locations in the space of about an hour for asking how to make iskw

It is a pretty reasonable questionw Why is it even possible to put a bounty on a person who has done nothing?w I can't go and put a bountry on my next door neighbor or the guy in the service station so why are people able to ruin the experience of new players in this way?w

Doesnt really make much sense does it?w especially when it happens in a help channel designed to help people in game who are neww.

Thanksw


Now your Bounty is doubled... have a nice day :)
Chock Nurris
Cloakers
#17 - 2013-07-21 10:37:00 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it.

Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true?
Whitehound
#18 - 2013-07-21 10:42:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Chock Nurris wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it.

Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true?

No. Anyone can kill you with or without having a bounty on you. In high-sec will it have consequences for the attacker afterwards however. CONCORD will shoot them down and they will lose their ship. Because the ship will be more valuable than what an attacker can get from a gank should you not worry about it. The bounty only makes you look cool (if it was not for those boobs).

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#19 - 2013-07-21 10:46:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Whitehound wrote:
Your avatar has got a beard and boobs. I doubt anyone will come near you. You should be completely safe.


But it's all done in the best possible taste.

OP stop fishing for bounties on the forum and do it with your alt like normal people.
Jorden Ishonen
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-07-21 10:47:37 UTC
Chock Nurris wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
No one is going to gank you for 14m. I wouldn't worry about it.

Help people said anyone can kill me if I undock with bountyw By your rely this is not true?


Anyone can kill you at anytime, regardless of whether you have a bounty or not.

The sec status of the system you're in changes the specifics (high-sec is generally quite safe) but ultimately if you're undocked, you can be killed.

The bounty might act as an incentive...if it were more than 14 million. 14 billion and you might see some trouble even in highsec. But at 14 million, you can pretty much be assured that no one will gank you for your pitiful bounty.,

P.S. whining about having a bounty on you on the forums is a good way to get the bounty increased.
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